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Watched a review of the new BMW iX5, the #EV version.

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    Watched a review of the new BMW iX5, the #EV version. The integrated #AI in the infotainment system got me thinking. And not in a good way. I can see this being a shit show. Blog here:

    https://gregharvey.gitlab.io/blog/posts/2026-07/ai-in-cars/

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    • greg_harvey@tooting.chG greg_harvey@tooting.ch

      Watched a review of the new BMW iX5, the #EV version. The integrated #AI in the infotainment system got me thinking. And not in a good way. I can see this being a shit show. Blog here:

      https://gregharvey.gitlab.io/blog/posts/2026-07/ai-in-cars/

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      @greg_harvey

      You really don't need that much hardware to run one of the smaller gemma models like the gemma-4-E2B, and it will probably be able to use input from your GPS and most likely also use the internet connection in the car to do searches.

      On Android phones you can run local models with the "Google AI Edge Gallery" - it works OK on my Samsung A25, which is anything but a powerhouse. 😉

      Also, like you said, these will definitely be models that are trained for this particular purpose, making them lighter a d more responsive than the general purpose models.

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        @greg_harvey

        You really don't need that much hardware to run one of the smaller gemma models like the gemma-4-E2B, and it will probably be able to use input from your GPS and most likely also use the internet connection in the car to do searches.

        On Android phones you can run local models with the "Google AI Edge Gallery" - it works OK on my Samsung A25, which is anything but a powerhouse. 😉

        Also, like you said, these will definitely be models that are trained for this particular purpose, making them lighter a d more responsive than the general purpose models.

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        @madsenandersc I guess it comes down to what the automotive companies decide is best for *them*.

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          Watched a review of the new BMW iX5, the #EV version. The integrated #AI in the infotainment system got me thinking. And not in a good way. I can see this being a shit show. Blog here:

          https://gregharvey.gitlab.io/blog/posts/2026-07/ai-in-cars/

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          Obliquely related, I love the story of the Fisker Ocean. Fisker went bust, but the owners club self organised and it's now basically the only open source EV you can buy. (Second hand, of course.)

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          • greg_harvey@tooting.chG greg_harvey@tooting.ch

            @madsenandersc I guess it comes down to what the automotive companies decide is best for *them*.

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            @greg_harvey

            To some extent, sure - but I think you were pretty much right when you pointed out that relying on an online service when there are areas where coverage is spotty to say the least, would give nothing but trouble for the automakers.

            That, and the fact that customers are pretty reluctant to start paying for something that was originally included in the price of the car. Hyundai has had pretty limited success with converting people into paying customers after the first three years were up to the best of my knowledge.

            Even for an automotive company, making money can come with a price tag that may not be worth it.

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