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    Of course, I agree with Parrique. But how does one counter those who say that "#degrowth" is a "dangerous solution"?

    Climate crisis must be tackled without resorting to degrowth, says MEP
    Eleanor Butler

    Thu, May 22, 2025

    Timothée Parrique, an economist and researcher at HEC Lausanne: " 'This [degrowth] is not a political statement… this is a scientific reality that we have to grapple with,'

    " 'There is no point being first when you're going in the wrong direction…economic growth has lost all correlation with quality of life.'

    "He continued: 'I can tell you with confidence wealth is not trickling down and pollution is not trickling out.'

    "The theory of degrowth, which has been around since the 1970s, warns against continual economic growth and instead advocates for economic shrinking. Proponents argue that the world doesn’t have enough resources to make endless growth a realistic goal, meaning we need to scale back our consumption.

    "Although supported by some eminent academics, critics argue that degrowth would massively destabilise the interconnected global economy, resulting in unemployment and deepening inequality. They also argue that it’s a tough political sell."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/climate-crisis-must-tackled-without-151334198.html

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      Of course, I agree with Parrique. But how does one counter those who say that "#degrowth" is a "dangerous solution"?

      Climate crisis must be tackled without resorting to degrowth, says MEP
      Eleanor Butler

      Thu, May 22, 2025

      Timothée Parrique, an economist and researcher at HEC Lausanne: " 'This [degrowth] is not a political statement… this is a scientific reality that we have to grapple with,'

      " 'There is no point being first when you're going in the wrong direction…economic growth has lost all correlation with quality of life.'

      "He continued: 'I can tell you with confidence wealth is not trickling down and pollution is not trickling out.'

      "The theory of degrowth, which has been around since the 1970s, warns against continual economic growth and instead advocates for economic shrinking. Proponents argue that the world doesn’t have enough resources to make endless growth a realistic goal, meaning we need to scale back our consumption.

      "Although supported by some eminent academics, critics argue that degrowth would massively destabilise the interconnected global economy, resulting in unemployment and deepening inequality. They also argue that it’s a tough political sell."

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/climate-crisis-must-tackled-without-151334198.html

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      @DoomsdaysCW Yes, of course, degrowth is dangerous. It will be very difficult to achieve, and many setbacks will occur along the way. But the alternative, which is Business As Usual, staying on the path of continued economic growth, is far *more* dangerous.

      You can see the evidence all around us — crashing biodiversity, sea levels rising, the climate heating up, forests and cities burning — to go on this way is madness. Degrowth is the only hope we have for a soft landing.

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        @DoomsdaysCW Yes, of course, degrowth is dangerous. It will be very difficult to achieve, and many setbacks will occur along the way. But the alternative, which is Business As Usual, staying on the path of continued economic growth, is far *more* dangerous.

        You can see the evidence all around us — crashing biodiversity, sea levels rising, the climate heating up, forests and cities burning — to go on this way is madness. Degrowth is the only hope we have for a soft landing.

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        ie, degrowth is gonna happen no matter what. the choice is whether we do it the easy way (planned, controlled) or the hard way (system collapse)
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