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  • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

    @b0rk it's `rsync` and it's not even close.

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    #21

    @shnizmuffin what do you like about it? (also: you mean this one right? https://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync)

    i like that it takes a different approach to the SYNOPSIS and puts examples before the comprehensive list of all options, I haven't seen that a lot

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    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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      #22

      @b0rk I think @bagder would enjoy that compliment 🙂

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      • thomastc@mastodon.gamedev.placeT thomastc@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @ludonaut @b0rk I had no idea that existed! So useful!

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        #23

        @thomastc @b0rk glad to help 🙂

        i regularly use that page to show the young ones at work why ^H (Ctrl-H) is backspace, ^I is tab and ^[ is literally escape, it's just a flipped bit in ascii (which i suspect is the reason the columns are laid out like that)

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        • d6@merveilles.townD d6@merveilles.town

          @b0rk it's an uncool example these days but...

          i always really appreciated how `man perl` links to 40+ other man pages that collectively describe the entire language and its standard library and tools. so if you are trying to learn about it everything you need is there and can be browsed or searched for. the prose is fairly engaging and well-written.

          (these days online might make more sense but at the time having it available offline in a very lightweight format that was readable from the terminal was great.)

          P.S. the manual pages are actually produced by perldoc which is also a very cool related tool.

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          #24

          @d6 this is so cool, I've never looked at this before! makes me want to find out who wrote them.

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          • arrjay@tacobelllabs.netA arrjay@tacobelllabs.net

            @aredridel @b0rk oh, my favorite there is perllol(1)

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            #25

            @arrjay @aredridel this is awesome, I love `perlcheat`, I've never seen anything like that in a man page

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            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

              do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

              my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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              #26

              @b0rk Off the dome, I feel like I remember the man page for find almost always getting me where I needed to go

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              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                #27

                @b0rk I was always partial to `man man`.

                Great to introduce people to `man` so they can bootstrap their command-line-fu.

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                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                  @bretthaines the Mac grep man page?

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                  #28

                  @b0rk yes, my work computer is a mac so that's the one I pull up more often. I forgot the Linux one is different 😅

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                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                    do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                    my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                    #29
                    man httpd
                    man httpd.conf

                    https://man.openbsd.org
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                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                      #30

                      @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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                      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                        do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                        my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                        #31

                        @b0rk the one I've used the most is `man bash`, because it's not just a man page, it's the documentation for the whole scripting language!

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                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                          do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                          my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                          #32

                          @b0rk

                          I love the man bash
                          But although the lvm commands man. With useful examples that cover lot of case !

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                          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                            do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                            my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                            #33

                            @b0rk I do like it too, even thought it makes the man page 7195 lines long 😃 .

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                            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                              do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                              my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                              #34

                              @b0rk I don't believe to have a favourite. Yet, due to the rule (rather 'tip') "'Select' Isn't Broken", select(2) and the corresponding story behind the tip from the book "Pragmatic Programmer" comes to my mind 🙂

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                              • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

                                @b0rk I do like it too, even thought it makes the man page 7195 lines long 😃 .

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                                #35

                                @derickr @b0rk

                                ❤ It's searchable.

                                That makes it alright. 😄

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                                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                  do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                  my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                  #36

                                  @b0rk my favourite was an early version of less(1), whose one-line synopsis was:

                                  less - better than more(1)

                                  Which it was, because you could go _backwards_... that was the first program I ever compiled from downloaded source.

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                                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                    do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                    my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                    #37

                                    I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

                                    it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

                                    the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

                                    there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

                                    (2/?)

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                                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                      #38

                                      @b0rk it's also my favourite hairstyle

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                                      • pounce@types.plP pounce@types.pl

                                        @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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                                        #39

                                        @pounce that's cool, I'd never seen that

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                                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                          @shnizmuffin what do you like about it? (also: you mean this one right? https://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync)

                                          i like that it takes a different approach to the SYNOPSIS and puts examples before the comprehensive list of all options, I haven't seen that a lot

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                                          #40

                                          @b0rk It leads with examples from most common to least common, and sorts its many options following similar logic.

                                          It's basically ...

                                          1. WTF am I looking at. (--verbose et al)
                                          2. Sensible defaults (--archive)
                                          3. How do I change one thing (--no-OPTION)
                                          4. Filepath stuff
                                          5. Link stuff
                                          6. Permission stuff
                                          7. File metadata stuff
                                          8. Config stuff
                                          9. Filter stuff
                                          10. Shit one person needed once
                                          11. --human-readable
                                          12. please don't run forever
                                          13. --version, --help

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