my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
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@davidbcohen I've been really fortunate recently. All my audio devices have Just Worked on Linux when and how I wanted them to, including some Bluetooth devices that Windows 10 refused to handle at all.
I am aware that this isn't a typical experience, do you can imagine my surprise.
@krans @davidbcohen @viq @0xabad1dea My experience also.
One minor Bluetooth annoyance:
My laptop (Linux) pairing with the car as wife arrives home and I lose audio.

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my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
I clicked the audio troubleshooting button in Settings. It did not send me to the troubleshooter, but instead redirected me to install a help app. (yes, it wasn't even pre-installed.)
The help app told me to click the audio troubleshooter button.
Satya Nadella owes me three billion dollars in emotional damages.
(we've fixed the audio problem by unplugging the USB microphone and rebooting. before you @ me self-righteously about someone else's operating system which was chosen in accordance with THEIR needs and not mine and certainly not yours, consider whether I might react with the fury of ten thousand suns)
Windows 11 is an absolute mess. I blame their decision to use AI to write their code.
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@krans @davidbcohen @viq @0xabad1dea My experience also.
One minor Bluetooth annoyance:
My laptop (Linux) pairing with the car as wife arrives home and I lose audio.

@samueljohnson OK, that one is hilarious

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@viq @0xabad1dea Surely, Pulseaudio has been obsolete for years? Pipewire has been the default in my distro for a long time.
@samueljohnson @0xabad1dea "the future is not distributed evenly"

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@samueljohnson @0xabad1dea "the future is not distributed evenly"

@viq @0xabad1dea True. But Pulseaudio is the equivalent of going school barefoot with a roast potato for a handwarmer, no?

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@viq @0xabad1dea True. But Pulseaudio is the equivalent of going school barefoot with a roast potato for a handwarmer, no?

@samueljohnson LTS system version, not the most recent one, and it's not up to me to bump it

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my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
I clicked the audio troubleshooting button in Settings. It did not send me to the troubleshooter, but instead redirected me to install a help app. (yes, it wasn't even pre-installed.)
The help app told me to click the audio troubleshooter button.
Satya Nadella owes me three billion dollars in emotional damages.
(we've fixed the audio problem by unplugging the USB microphone and rebooting. before you @ me self-righteously about someone else's operating system which was chosen in accordance with THEIR needs and not mine and certainly not yours, consider whether I might react with the fury of ten thousand suns)
@0xabad1dea On Windows Server 2025 I had to install the help app for something similar. Except I couldn't. MS suggested enabling "compatibility support". Then Windows Settings, the Start Menu and the Task Bar stopped working
Reinstalling on company time...
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@samueljohnson LTS system version, not the most recent one, and it's not up to me to bump it

@viq @samueljohnson, whereas I have pipewire 1.4.2 and pulseaudio 17.0; and I see pipewire 1.4.9 in stable-backports.
Right now, it works. A while ago, programs would start up with a chance of outputting audio to one monitor instead of to headphones, but I seem to have fixed that.
Do I risk breakage by installing that newer version or do I stick with stable…
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my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
I clicked the audio troubleshooting button in Settings. It did not send me to the troubleshooter, but instead redirected me to install a help app. (yes, it wasn't even pre-installed.)
The help app told me to click the audio troubleshooter button.
Satya Nadella owes me three billion dollars in emotional damages.
(we've fixed the audio problem by unplugging the USB microphone and rebooting. before you @ me self-righteously about someone else's operating system which was chosen in accordance with THEIR needs and not mine and certainly not yours, consider whether I might react with the fury of ten thousand suns)
@0xabad1dea They're making so many weird choices nowadays. It's as if they're willingly trying to break the functionality of all the menus available via the systray (among other things of course). I have to use Win11 on my work laptop, and just how they messed up the battery tooltip/popup/dialog/thingamajig compared to Win10 is just baffling to me...
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Did someone say dog
@whattheflux yes, check the rest of her account. she has so much dog.
no, I do not mean so many dogs. she has one dog. but it is so much dog
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@viq @0xabad1dea Of course, Linux solves this problem by a) just not having audio work at all or b) requiring you recompile the entire audio stack from the source or c) making you find a single Stack Overflow post from 2019 telling you to ‘simply enter the command SUDO SUCKIT AUDIO.PY’ into a terminal window
/s
@davidbcohen @viq @0xabad1dea That is an effective way of solving it IMHO. By managing the expectation, you are much more likely to just accept it. Boy, did I run some half broken OS installations, requiring multiple hand typed commands just to finish booting.
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my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
I clicked the audio troubleshooting button in Settings. It did not send me to the troubleshooter, but instead redirected me to install a help app. (yes, it wasn't even pre-installed.)
The help app told me to click the audio troubleshooter button.
Satya Nadella owes me three billion dollars in emotional damages.
(we've fixed the audio problem by unplugging the USB microphone and rebooting. before you @ me self-righteously about someone else's operating system which was chosen in accordance with THEIR needs and not mine and certainly not yours, consider whether I might react with the fury of ten thousand suns)
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my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
I clicked the audio troubleshooting button in Settings. It did not send me to the troubleshooter, but instead redirected me to install a help app. (yes, it wasn't even pre-installed.)
The help app told me to click the audio troubleshooter button.
Satya Nadella owes me three billion dollars in emotional damages.
(we've fixed the audio problem by unplugging the USB microphone and rebooting. before you @ me self-righteously about someone else's operating system which was chosen in accordance with THEIR needs and not mine and certainly not yours, consider whether I might react with the fury of ten thousand suns)
@0xabad1dea I've had the network troubleshooter ask me to install the help app
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@0xabad1dea Honestly, having been using Linux with a whole bunch of different audio devices plugged in at once lately, I think anyone who says Linux would have fixed this specific problem speaking out of their ass.
Last Wednesday for some reason every program on the computer except for discord's call would send its audio to my Bluetooth headphones. That includes all of the joining channel other noises. discord makes, just not the call audio
@Canageek @0xabad1dea I'm definitely a Linux partisan, but were switching to Linux to actually fix the issue described, I would be extremely curious as to why/how.
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my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
I clicked the audio troubleshooting button in Settings. It did not send me to the troubleshooter, but instead redirected me to install a help app. (yes, it wasn't even pre-installed.)
The help app told me to click the audio troubleshooter button.
Satya Nadella owes me three billion dollars in emotional damages.
(we've fixed the audio problem by unplugging the USB microphone and rebooting. before you @ me self-righteously about someone else's operating system which was chosen in accordance with THEIR needs and not mine and certainly not yours, consider whether I might react with the fury of ten thousand suns)
@0xabad1dea I don't remember windows troubleshooting ever actually solving a problem for me. Neither has the "look for a new driver" wizard. I'm beginning those suspect that those apps just throw up a random spinner and don't actually do anything.
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I have blocked two people tonight. One accused me out of the clear blue sky of being a child abuser for absolutely no apparent reason (no supporting evidence was provided). The other decided it’d be real funny to do the one thing that I specifically said would not be funny and would make me very angry.
Anyone else want to lose dog photo privileges? Maybe blame the invasion of Genghis Khan on me?
@0xabad1dea I like Odin, thanks for your continued sharing of Odin's presence with us.
I and many others are always delighted when we see you and your gentle black-furred giant on our feed.
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@0xabad1dea all i thought was 'dark pattern to make one give up and get usb or bluetooth headphones'
@bakachu Oh no, when you have Bluetooth headphones you get a whole raft of bonus issues clearly designed to make you give up and get analogue headphones!
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@0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange Yeah they removed the troubleshooting feature for some reason in a new update.
No clue why but its completely braindead@ashiisbest @0xabad1dea maybe because it can't help you? They just forgot to remove the "install if missing" feature in all tge apps. I never got help by the windows help apps and forums and whatnot, by the way, not sure why I always try...
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my husband's new Windows 11 computer suddenly stopped outputting audio to the 3.5mm headphones.
I clicked the audio troubleshooting button in Settings. It did not send me to the troubleshooter, but instead redirected me to install a help app. (yes, it wasn't even pre-installed.)
The help app told me to click the audio troubleshooter button.
Satya Nadella owes me three billion dollars in emotional damages.
(we've fixed the audio problem by unplugging the USB microphone and rebooting. before you @ me self-righteously about someone else's operating system which was chosen in accordance with THEIR needs and not mine and certainly not yours, consider whether I might react with the fury of ten thousand suns)
@0xabad1dea but this happened always, with Windows...
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@0xabad1dea About 20 years ago, I was at a conference at which a very prominent "free software" advocate who you've definitely heard of was in attendance. Someone, in the hallway, was talking how he liked his new noise-canceling headphones. The free software guy overheard this and started haranguing everyone about how headphones are proprietary and restrict freedom. Someone who had no idea who he was figured he was having some kind of breakdown and called hotel security.
@mattblaze @0xabad1dea it's a never ending annoyance at being part of Linux Australia (who run a bunch of conferences & user groups etc), people always complaining we don't use a 100% Free (by their preferred definition) stack to do everything. We try, but focus more on actually serving our community.
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