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  • aburtch@shakedown.socialA aburtch@shakedown.social

    @mattblaze That’s ridiculous. The whole point of Mastodon is to do what you want with your feed. If people don’t like it, they don’t have to see it.

    matak79@stranger.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #20

    @aburtch @mattblaze exactly
    I’d just post more photos with promotions if it was me lol

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    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

      matak79@stranger.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #21

      @mattblaze I mean it caused me to check out your photos lol

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      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

        @c_dan4th We really have to tackle this problem more proactively.

        We've seen too many people driven away with this antisocial behavior already. Prominent creators. Black people. Women.

        Yeah, you can block when it happens a few times, but eventually, you'll just get tired and move on to Bluesky, where this just doesn't seem to be as big of an issue.

        Not sure to what degree this has to do with the lack of options for locking replies to followers-only, and how much of it is just the culture on here.

        But if we want the fediverse to be a safe and welcoming place for everyone, it will require some work from all of us.

        @mattblaze

        mattblaze@federate.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #22

        @stefan @c_dan4th yep. I personally know several prominent artists, authors, and entertainers who were driven away from here by people enforcing these made up rules. The thinking (to the extent there’s actual thinking happening here) is that anyone who had a large following on twitter was - by definition - part of the problem with twitter.

        stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS damonhd@mastodon.socialD wildeyedboyfromfreecloud@masto.aiW stinerman@mastodon.socialS mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM 5 Replies Last reply
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        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

          Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

          For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

          Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

          alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #23

          @mattblaze So weird. Of all the people posting "buy my shit" posts, you have never been one of them.

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          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

            @stefan @c_dan4th yep. I personally know several prominent artists, authors, and entertainers who were driven away from here by people enforcing these made up rules. The thinking (to the extent there’s actual thinking happening here) is that anyone who had a large following on twitter was - by definition - part of the problem with twitter.

            stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #24

            @mattblaze On one hand, I do sympathize with all the marginalized people who originally came to the fediverse to seek refuge from Twitter and other (mostly corporate) online spaces where they were not safe and welcome themselves.

            But there has to be a way we can share the fediverse together.

            @c_dan4th

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            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

              Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

              For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

              Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

              jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #25

              @mattblaze Just block and move on, man.

              Whenever one of those crosses my feed (which isn't common, thank goodness) that's what I do. And I don't ever dignify them with aknowledging their existence, unless I feel like giving them a last goodbye that day.

              Some people are just dumb. Nothing you can do about it. All you can do is protect yourself from their stupidity.

              No need to justify posting your photos. Or whatever else you post. Just shrug and keep posting what you want.

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              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                paulb3017@mastodon.scotP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #26

                @mattblaze
                It's not for anyone else to say what you should be tooting so I'd say just ignore them. I really don't mind if artists, photographers, etc. use this as a space to show us and sell things they've made themselves. The reality is that people have to make a living somehow, and mastodon is one of the few places artisans have the potential to do that without supporting a fascist tech bro.

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                • chris@westmichigan.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #27

                  @Kiloku @mattblaze I feel like I wouldn't mind ads by a corporation on Mastodon. I see everything as opt-in: if I don't want their ads I don't follow them, if people boost their ads and it makes it onto my feed I can just mute them or something.

                  I'd rather have some ads that I can easily ignore than be on a platform that forces me to see ads.

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                  • jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ jorgecandeias@mastodon.social

                    @mattblaze Just block and move on, man.

                    Whenever one of those crosses my feed (which isn't common, thank goodness) that's what I do. And I don't ever dignify them with aknowledging their existence, unless I feel like giving them a last goodbye that day.

                    Some people are just dumb. Nothing you can do about it. All you can do is protect yourself from their stupidity.

                    No need to justify posting your photos. Or whatever else you post. Just shrug and keep posting what you want.

                    mattblaze@federate.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #28

                    @jorgecandeias being smugly advised to “just block and move on” gets old the thousandth or so time.

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                    • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

                      @mattblaze I hate the folks who think artists promoting their own work is "spam". Individuals making things is the point. Literally the reason I'm here rather than somewhere else. I specifically, explicitly, entirely, want to see what people are making.

                      missgayle@urbanists.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #29

                      @swelljoe @mattblaze

                      Overall, the fediverse is far more accepting of artists promoting their work than twitter ever was. Of course, YMMV, but there are whole instances dedicated to arts and crafts and nobody blocks them.

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                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                        chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #30

                        @mattblaze I cannot understand the level of entitlement one must have to feel justified in telling anyone how to use their account. If you started posting GWAR fan fiction that is entirely your prerogative. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to mute/block/unfollow/launch themselves into low orbit.

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                        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                          @jorgecandeias being smugly advised to “just block and move on” gets old the thousandth or so time.

                          jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #31

                          @mattblaze Never saw the other 999 times, but OK, then. I won't tell you anything the next times you complain about someone craving for attention that goes after you. It does happen a lot, I've noticed.

                          Pinky promise.

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                          • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

                            @mattblaze I cannot understand the level of entitlement one must have to feel justified in telling anyone how to use their account. If you started posting GWAR fan fiction that is entirely your prerogative. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to mute/block/unfollow/launch themselves into low orbit.

                            drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #32

                            @chronovore @mattblaze

                            While true, people would be entirely justified to scold about posting GWAR fan fiction without some sort of hashtag.

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                            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                              Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                              For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                              Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                              daj@gofer.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #33

                              @mattblaze The block button is your friend.  You are in control.

                              There is no room for twats here.  You Do You  🙂

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                              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                brad@1040ste.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #34

                                @mattblaze How are people seeing your toots, if not through recommendations from others? Like, shouldn't they be annoyed with (and stop following) the retooter if they don't like what they're seeing? Assuming they aren't following you of course, in which case their reaction is even more inexplicable.

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                                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                  Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                  For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                  Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                  gdinwiddie@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #35

                                  @mattblaze Thank you for sharing your photos here for my enjoyment.

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                                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                    Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                    For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                    Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                    anysh@mastodon.ieA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #36

                                    @mattblaze I love your photos! Keep posting them

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                                    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                      nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #37

                                      @mattblaze It's like they can't figure out that they're in charge of what they see on the platform...they're making you responsible for what they see Exactly backwards

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                                      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                        @mattblaze On one hand, I do sympathize with all the marginalized people who originally came to the fediverse to seek refuge from Twitter and other (mostly corporate) online spaces where they were not safe and welcome themselves.

                                        But there has to be a way we can share the fediverse together.

                                        @c_dan4th

                                        ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #38

                                        @stefan
                                        > sympathize with all the marginalized people

                                        Yet who tried to annoy someone posting his art photos are not of the marginalized kind. Those are IMO paid trolls. Plenty of them, esp on Xwamp, from where they likely came.

                                        @mattblaze @c_dan4th

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                                        • missgayle@urbanists.socialM missgayle@urbanists.social

                                          @swelljoe @mattblaze

                                          Overall, the fediverse is far more accepting of artists promoting their work than twitter ever was. Of course, YMMV, but there are whole instances dedicated to arts and crafts and nobody blocks them.

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                                          #39

                                          @MissGayle @mattblaze Mastodon also has more self-appointed HOA presidents than anywhere I've ever been. It's a mixed bag. Nobody owns the place, so everybody thinks they own the place.

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