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    @nighthawk @simonbs

    https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/

    This article might be of interest to you then. Core idea is that that AI in its current meaning is antithetical to open source as it has been understood or free software as it was defined by the FSF. You know, because if they told you everything they trained on, someone motivated should start looking for the entire Harry Potter universe in there just to name a prominent example that has already been in the news for Anthropic specifically.

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    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

      Hypocrites.

      You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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      @simonbs

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      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

        @nighthawk Properly a little less, at least from the software industry, but I think authors and artists would give the same backlash.

        Just to be clear: my post isn't meant as backlash, per se. I use AI tools frequently. I just don't want Anthropic etc. to cry about someone stealing from them when that's their entire business.

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        #6

        @simonbs @nighthawk Bank Robbers get mugged during getaway!!! Read all about it!!!

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        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

          Hypocrites.

          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

          grumble209@kolektiva.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @simonbs "BUT WE STOLE IT FIRST" is an interesting legal strategy.

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          • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

            Hypocrites.

            You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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            #8

            @simonbs I love the sweet sweet tears of the AI industry in the morning.

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            • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

              Hypocrites.

              You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

              marc@23.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @simonbs it’s like a thief being robbed by another thief, but demanding ethics and a fair game.

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              • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                Hypocrites.

                You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                #10

                @simonbs https://youtu.be/vxnpY0owPkA?t=25

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                • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                  Hypocrites.

                  You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                  #11

                  @simonbs if i was anthropic i'd stfu

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                  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                    Hypocrites.

                    You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                    @simonbs

                    #TranslatedFromTheRepublican

                    "Our stolen car was used by a car thief to steal more cars. "

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                    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                      Hypocrites.

                      You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                      #13

                      @simonbs Rofl, I'd play the world's tiniest violin for them, but apparently they're down to tardigrade size now according to the memes, so I can't even do that. Oh well.

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                      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                        Hypocrites.

                        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                        ulriknyman@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @simonbs Lets just forget about copyright.

                        If it is accessible it should be free to be copied.

                        I hope the EU starts the wave by abolishing US copyright in EU.

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                        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                          Hypocrites.

                          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                          #15

                          @simonbs Kind of difficult to not root for the scrapers. Please, scrape each other even harder, anything that makes this whole thing collapse a little quicker.

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