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  3. Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

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  • zbrown@floss.socialZ zbrown@floss.social

    @Disputatore @QasimRashid except he was in no danger of being dragged this time, and hardly seems to have been having a trauma response at the time. He also had every opportunity to withdraw but instead moved closer.

    You really don't have to defend fascist murderers.

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    #16

    @zbrown @QasimRashid how am I defending him if I'm saying he wasn't capable of being in the field? Have you read what I said? Yes, the guy probably wanted revenge.

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    • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

      Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

      The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

      The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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      #17

      @QasimRashid fuck these terrorists (aka ICE)

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      • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

        Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

        The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

        The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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        #18

        @QasimRashid

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        • disputatore@masto.ptD disputatore@masto.pt

          @zbrown @QasimRashid how am I defending him if I'm saying he wasn't capable of being in the field? Have you read what I said? Yes, the guy probably wanted revenge.

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          #19

          @Disputatore @zbrown @QasimRashid Noem and the White House said he followed his training and did everything correctly. Ergo, ICE exists to murder people for no reason.

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          • vorsos@beige.partyV vorsos@beige.party

            @Disputatore @zbrown @QasimRashid Noem and the White House said he followed his training and did everything correctly. Ergo, ICE exists to murder people for no reason.

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            #20

            @Vorsos @zbrown @QasimRashid that's a different conversation. I was talking about that specific guy, with that specific history.

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            • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

              Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

              The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

              The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

              xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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              #21

              @QasimRashid

              He simply executed her. This cannot be left unpunished. First degree murder.
              Unacceptable.

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              • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

                The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

                The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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                #22

                @QasimRashid Yes. There's also several mini-docs & interviews with former border patrol agents who have admitted that they are trained to racially profile & behave like lawless modern day slave catchers. It's not the lack of training that was the problem. The problem has always been that they're trained to be racist thugs. That's been a problem under both DNC & GOP.

                To be frank - I believe establishment DNC are just as terrified, of the power of the people becoming more united against government overreach/abuses of public office power, as GOP. They both know if the people unite against them - they're rendered less powerful & less able to keep towing status quo crap, that harms citizens as a whole.

                I don't trust government because they've given me too many reasons to never trust them. I'm Canadian & we have MapleMAGA/neoliberalism/fascism problems here too.

                #USpol #CanadianVoices

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                • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                  Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

                  The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

                  The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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                  #23

                  @QasimRashid
                  Exactly to the point ! Thanks !

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                  • disputatore@masto.ptD disputatore@masto.pt

                    @Vorsos @zbrown @QasimRashid that's a different conversation. I was talking about that specific guy, with that specific history.

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                    #24

                    @Disputatore @zbrown @QasimRashid So am I. Whatever hairs you’re splitting are too small to see, but they smell like defending ICE.

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                    • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                      Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

                      The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

                      The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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                      #25

                      @QasimRashid FINALLY. NOW you're talking.

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                      • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                        Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

                        The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

                        The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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                        #26

                        @QasimRashid

                        “Al Fascismo no se le discute, se le destruye” -- Buenaventura Durruti

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                        • xs4me2@mastodon.socialX xs4me2@mastodon.social

                          @QasimRashid

                          He simply executed her. This cannot be left unpunished. First degree murder.
                          Unacceptable.

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                          #27

                          @xs4me2 @QasimRashid

                          Will he be legally prosecuted or is this a case best left to #StreetJustice? Just wondering, not trying to incite any crimes. Crimes are bad. Don't do them, especially in front of witnesses and cameras.

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                          • vorsos@beige.partyV vorsos@beige.party

                            @Disputatore @zbrown @QasimRashid So am I. Whatever hairs you’re splitting are too small to see, but they smell like defending ICE.

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                            #28

                            @Vorsos @zbrown @QasimRashid your should check that with a doctor

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                            • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                              Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

                              The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

                              The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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                              #29

                              @QasimRashid Deliberately standing in front of vehicles to provide justification for murdering the occupants has been going on since at least 2014.
                              https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/us-border-agents-intentionally-stepped-front-moving-vehicles-justify-shooting-them/

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                              • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                Jonathan Ross—the ICE fascist who killed Renee Good—is an 18-year ICE veteran, firearms instructor, & active shooter trainer.

                                The people claiming "ICE needs more training" are missing the point. Ross's 2 DECADES of training IS what led him to execute Good. ICE Training IS the problem. More money for more ICE training results in more trained killers.

                                The problem with fascists isn't that they're poorly trained, it's that they're fascists. You don't train fascists, you abolish them. Abolish ICE.

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                                #30

                                @QasimRashid in years gone by, good guys would shoot fascists. The main reason they would do is is because the fascists were shooting the Good.

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                                • robkay0809@mstdn.caR robkay0809@mstdn.ca

                                  @QasimRashid

                                  A Brit who is a long time resident of Germany posted that "ICE is not the equivalent to the Gestapo, it is the equivalent to the SA".
                                  The actions of the SA were sufficiently egregious, and they had become a political threat to German intelligentsia, that the Party patrons and the military pushed the leadership to clamp down.
                                  In July 1933, the party security forces decapitated the leadership of the SA.

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                                  #31

                                  @Robkay0809 @QasimRashid I jusy skim read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung yep 100%

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                                  • disputatore@masto.ptD disputatore@masto.pt

                                    @Vorsos @zbrown @QasimRashid your should check that with a doctor

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                                    #32

                                    @Disputatore @Vorsos @zbrown @QasimRashid The rule is simple: if you condemn ICE but in a different way, you'll be accused of defending ICE. This little game kinda became very popular here over the last few months.

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                                    • disputatore@masto.ptD disputatore@masto.pt

                                      @QasimRashid people forget that he was dragged by a car on a previous incident and spent months in recovery. As history demonstrates, he shouldn't have been put into active duty again as we wasn't capable of dealing with that type of situation.

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                                      #33

                                      @Disputatore @QasimRashid I see it in another way. If you suffer from some kind of PTSD you don’t step in front of car. So, this is trying to put the blame on the institution not on the person responsible.

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                                      • E eddieluca@mastodon.social

                                        @Disputatore @QasimRashid I see it in another way. If you suffer from some kind of PTSD you don’t step in front of car. So, this is trying to put the blame on the institution not on the person responsible.

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                                        #34

                                        @Eddieluca @Disputatore @QasimRashid Or both the institution AND the individual are reprehensible. The individual was obviously looking for an excuse to murder someone. And the institution put him in the right setting to do so.

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                                        • matthewchat@mstdn.socialM matthewchat@mstdn.social

                                          @QasimRashid Deliberately standing in front of vehicles to provide justification for murdering the occupants has been going on since at least 2014.
                                          https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/us-border-agents-intentionally-stepped-front-moving-vehicles-justify-shooting-them/

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                                          #35

                                          @MatthewChat @QasimRashid Not defending Trump at all, but he wasn't even a candidate for president in 2014...

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