Trump Prosecutor Threatens Wikipedia https://www.thefp.com/p/trump-prosecutor-threatens-wikipedia
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Trump legal goons threaten Wikipedia https://www.theverge.com/news/656720/ed-martin-dc-attorney-wikipedia-nonprofit-threat
It's a bullshit case, but bullshit cases can do a lot of damage these days.
I've been expecting that we'd see attacks on Wikipedia and Bluesky this year from Trump and co, since those seem the "big targets" to go after.
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Trump legal goons threaten Wikipedia https://www.theverge.com/news/656720/ed-martin-dc-attorney-wikipedia-nonprofit-threat
It's a bullshit case, but bullshit cases can do a lot of damage these days.
I've been expecting that we'd see attacks on Wikipedia and Bluesky this year from Trump and co, since those seem the "big targets" to go after.
This may sound like I'm snarking on Bluesky again with this one; I'm not (and I certainly wouldn't snark on Wikipedia). I hope I am wrong about this, it's really that most of the rest of traditional media and the old social media companies have been captured.
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This may sound like I'm snarking on Bluesky again with this one; I'm not (and I certainly wouldn't snark on Wikipedia). I hope I am wrong about this, it's really that most of the rest of traditional media and the old social media companies have been captured.
Simultaneously, I believe:
- If the Trump administration goes after Bluesky, this is a case where we clearly side with Bluesky. It doesn't help anyone to be under attack like that.
- It's also a motivating reason to make Bluesky not depend on one corporation sooner than later, and encourage such designs generally, wherever possible. -
This may sound like I'm snarking on Bluesky again with this one; I'm not (and I certainly wouldn't snark on Wikipedia). I hope I am wrong about this, it's really that most of the rest of traditional media and the old social media companies have been captured.
@cwebber its probably going to be a disruptive and costly procedure but such organizations should maybe consider the feasibility of relocating their formal structures (not necessarily all their people) into EU / ECJ jurisdiction (maybe Luxemburg?)
Nothing is guaranteed anywhere when society implodes, but the multilateral nature of EU law and politics means collapse must be universal and not just a single country. Its one of the nice safety features of a federated system
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Trump legal goons threaten Wikipedia https://www.theverge.com/news/656720/ed-martin-dc-attorney-wikipedia-nonprofit-threat
It's a bullshit case, but bullshit cases can do a lot of damage these days.
I've been expecting that we'd see attacks on Wikipedia and Bluesky this year from Trump and co, since those seem the "big targets" to go after.
@cwebber from the article:
The letter, which was obtained by The Free Press, accused the largest online encyclopedia of “allowing foreign actors to manipulate information and spread propaganda to the American public.”
The biggest manipulator of the American public is the president himself. He spews out Russian propaganda daily. This is madness, just like all the other things this administration does 🤯
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Trump legal goons threaten Wikipedia https://www.theverge.com/news/656720/ed-martin-dc-attorney-wikipedia-nonprofit-threat
It's a bullshit case, but bullshit cases can do a lot of damage these days.
I've been expecting that we'd see attacks on Wikipedia and Bluesky this year from Trump and co, since those seem the "big targets" to go after.
@cwebber
I don't think I would want to quote TheFP as my main source. While it surely criticizes Martin, it also repeats claims that Wikipedia is "badly biased" (for which the e.g. the order(!) of Trump's achievements is the first exhibit) and that "Wikipedia says it “welcomes editors who strive for anonymity.”", when the article is clearly labeled as an individual's essay.Also the books authored by staff writers/editors #2 and #3 in the "Who we are" speak volumes.
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@cwebber
I don't think I would want to quote TheFP as my main source. While it surely criticizes Martin, it also repeats claims that Wikipedia is "badly biased" (for which the e.g. the order(!) of Trump's achievements is the first exhibit) and that "Wikipedia says it “welcomes editors who strive for anonymity.”", when the article is clearly labeled as an individual's essay.Also the books authored by staff writers/editors #2 and #3 in the "Who we are" speak volumes.
https://www.thefp.com/who-we-are@marcel Oh I see. Updated the link, thanks
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@cwebber its probably going to be a disruptive and costly procedure but such organizations should maybe consider the feasibility of relocating their formal structures (not necessarily all their people) into EU / ECJ jurisdiction (maybe Luxemburg?)
Nothing is guaranteed anywhere when society implodes, but the multilateral nature of EU law and politics means collapse must be universal and not just a single country. Its one of the nice safety features of a federated system
@openrisk @cwebber in theory the Wikimedia Foundation is federated: we have chapters and user groups all over the world, and Wikimedia Deutschland actually has a pretty substantial budget and funds some development itself.
But there is still a lot of centralization as well, mostly for efficiency and coordination, and it would/will be very hard to relocate.
Part of the original motivation for centralization was to collapse legal regimes, so that the project only had a single legal venue to dictate terms w/r/t copyright, libel, privacy etc. USA was seen at the time as a safe and stable bet.
Moving to (say) the EU would be an enormous legal undertaking, in addition to all the other costs.