Randomly making sure you all know about deodorant creams!
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Also of similar vein: Absolutely fucking sick of a million empty shampoo bottles? Try bar shampoo! Aka soap for hair!
They're a mildly more mild solid soap that also requires very minimal packaging and lasts forever. One bar of soap takes up much less space and weight than a shampoo bottle, and if your hair and skin is of the type that enjoys them, you may also never need conditioner much. Other bonuses: Does not contain the antifungal agents in liquid shampoo that give some people skin issues!
Further also: Liquid laundry detergent also contains preservatives that give people skin issues and breathing issues if sensitive. And once again, the million plastic bottles... Powder form detergent comes in cardboard boxes or enormous tubs, and works just as well and even better if used for white laundry, since white laundry powder actually whitens the laundry minutely instead of just adding blue dye onto it.
This has been my wisdom! I hate plastic!
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@sinituulia Is a deodorant crystal even more hippy?
Those don't work for everyone, but I'm glad it works for me as I'm allergic to everything else.@frykitty Possibly, but they're nothing but aluminium salts so I'd never recommend them to anyone because I'm not exactly sure how much of a risk that is compared to "normal" aluminium deodorant... Meanwhile soda can literally be eaten and doesn't build up in the body or work its way into tissues!
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@frykitty Possibly, but they're nothing but aluminium salts so I'd never recommend them to anyone because I'm not exactly sure how much of a risk that is compared to "normal" aluminium deodorant... Meanwhile soda can literally be eaten and doesn't build up in the body or work its way into tissues!
@frykitty (Not recommend: I won't tell people to use them, but I won't tell them not to, since I don't know!)
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Randomly making sure you all know about deodorant creams! The hippie kind!
Imagine a little tin or bar of beeswax and/or solid at room temperature vegetable waxes, baking soda and optional fragrances from things like orange peel oil, rosemary or black pepper.No aluminium, not drying to skin, surprisingly effective up to multiple days per application, easier to get off clothes so they're not ruined, one jar keeps for years and very little is required, minimal packaging. The natural oils for scent do not anger my very delicate constitution or nose! Very good!
@sinituulia I love those. Little zero waste shop in my neighbourhood introduced them to me, they sell it in returnable glass jars. They even don't mind giving you the recipe, so you can easily make it yourself.
I don't cuz I'm lazy and I want the maker to keep making them
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@sinituulia I love those. Little zero waste shop in my neighbourhood introduced them to me, they sell it in returnable glass jars. They even don't mind giving you the recipe, so you can easily make it yourself.
I don't cuz I'm lazy and I want the maker to keep making them
... also it's not expensive considering how long a jar will last@juni Yeah, people into kitchen alchemy can make them without much issue. I can't be bothered since it doesn't cost much to buy them and one jar lasts forever

I have an orange blossom one (orange peel oil), a lemongrass and lime one (self-explanatory) and a fragrance free one, and they're mild and enjoyable enough for me to almost never need the fragrance free one, since they don't trigger my rare migraines
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Further also: Liquid laundry detergent also contains preservatives that give people skin issues and breathing issues if sensitive. And once again, the million plastic bottles... Powder form detergent comes in cardboard boxes or enormous tubs, and works just as well and even better if used for white laundry, since white laundry powder actually whitens the laundry minutely instead of just adding blue dye onto it.
This has been my wisdom! I hate plastic!
@sinituulia I discovered laundry detergent leaves in the last few years. They're basically a small sheet of soap, that dissolves better than those pods, and is less messy than powder. Much less packaging than either. They're great.
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Further also: Liquid laundry detergent also contains preservatives that give people skin issues and breathing issues if sensitive. And once again, the million plastic bottles... Powder form detergent comes in cardboard boxes or enormous tubs, and works just as well and even better if used for white laundry, since white laundry powder actually whitens the laundry minutely instead of just adding blue dye onto it.
This has been my wisdom! I hate plastic!
@sinituulia I really ought to switch back to powder detergent—if only to remind myself why I switched away in the first place. There must have been a reason.

At least the liquid detergent I use comes in bottles made of 50 % recycled plastic. That’s something. Still, I’m with you here: down with plastic!
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@sinituulia I discovered laundry detergent leaves in the last few years. They're basically a small sheet of soap, that dissolves better than those pods, and is less messy than powder. Much less packaging than either. They're great.
@beecycling Haven't seen those, but sounds pretty solid. I like finessing the amount of detergent I use in every batch of laundry according to how dirty it is and what programme I'm using, so I'd never go for pre-portioned, but other people might!
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@sinituulia I really ought to switch back to powder detergent—if only to remind myself why I switched away in the first place. There must have been a reason.

At least the liquid detergent I use comes in bottles made of 50 % recycled plastic. That’s something. Still, I’m with you here: down with plastic!
@saruwine The most probable explanation is that your water, the powders used, the amount and the washing machine don't play together nicely.
My laundry machine does not like as much powder applied as the instructions tell you (I use a third of it usually?) and if it goes straight into the dispenser, it doesn't all dissolve. So I use a tiny bit of it straight into the drum, or put it in the dispenser box with a tiny cup of hot water, so it has time to dissolve properly as the programme waits to dispense it.
Too much of it and poorly dissolved it may leave traces on the laundry, which is generally fine but feels powdery and unpleasant and might not even wash properly.Also if there's zeolite in the powder, that's gonna build up in the machine, and isn't *required* to be there so it shouldn't be. I'm half convinced it's just a ploy to sell those laundry machine washing tablets (citric acid)
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@beecycling Haven't seen those, but sounds pretty solid. I like finessing the amount of detergent I use in every batch of laundry according to how dirty it is and what programme I'm using, so I'd never go for pre-portioned, but other people might!
@sinituulia These are the ones I use. You can do some finessing as they're easily torn into smaller bits. These ones even come perforated for tearing in half for doing a small hand wash.
I don't think they'd be great for stains like grass, blood, blackcurrant juice etc. But if you don't have rugby players and kids at home, they're fine.

https://www.dr-beckmann.co.uk/products/magic-leaves-bio-25-sheets/#tab-wrapper-0-item-0
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@sinituulia I discovered laundry detergent leaves in the last few years. They're basically a small sheet of soap, that dissolves better than those pods, and is less messy than powder. Much less packaging than either. They're great.
@beecycling @sinituulia
I use laundry sheets, not these particular ones, they work well and use so much less space and are environmentally friendly -
@saruwine The most probable explanation is that your water, the powders used, the amount and the washing machine don't play together nicely.
My laundry machine does not like as much powder applied as the instructions tell you (I use a third of it usually?) and if it goes straight into the dispenser, it doesn't all dissolve. So I use a tiny bit of it straight into the drum, or put it in the dispenser box with a tiny cup of hot water, so it has time to dissolve properly as the programme waits to dispense it.
Too much of it and poorly dissolved it may leave traces on the laundry, which is generally fine but feels powdery and unpleasant and might not even wash properly.Also if there's zeolite in the powder, that's gonna build up in the machine, and isn't *required* to be there so it shouldn't be. I'm half convinced it's just a ploy to sell those laundry machine washing tablets (citric acid)
@sinituulia Oh yeah, now that you mention it, the buildup of powder residue sounds very much like one of the reasons at least. Thanks for the tips!
And zeolite! My goodness, what a waste of countless tons of perfectly good minerals.
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