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In 1959, a cement mixer with a full load of cement, wrecked near Winganon, Oklahoma 🇺🇸

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  • archaeohistories@ohai.socialA archaeohistories@ohai.social

    In 1959, a cement mixer with a full load of cement, wrecked near Winganon, Oklahoma 🇺🇸

    By the time a tow truck came to haul it away, all of cement had hardened inside of mixer. Tow truck was not able to remove all wreckage at same time because of weight, and decided to haul only cab/frame and would come back for detached mixer later, which never happened.

    Today, 67 years later, it still sits where it fell. Locals have painted it and added "rocket thrusters" to make it look like a space capsule.

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    #15

    @archaeohistories

    This is about four miles from my brother's farm.

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    • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

      @archaeohistories

      Cute, but a big hazard if a vehicle has to leave the road. I would move this thing off.

      Or at least further away from the road. A crane could do this in less than four hours. Much cheaper than having a vehicle plow into it.

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      #16

      @davevolek it's a really small town population of about 500 and it's not even in town...probably a lot of other things than that to worry about causing a car accident. Looking at the map, might be a struggle to get a crane out there cheeply.

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      • skryking@infosec.exchangeS skryking@infosec.exchange

        @davevolek it's a really small town population of about 500 and it's not even in town...probably a lot of other things than that to worry about causing a car accident. Looking at the map, might be a struggle to get a crane out there cheeply.

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        #17

        @skryking

        The photo looks like a rural highway to me. This means fairly high speeds. If a car "hits the ditch," a bumpy ride turns into a fatal accident.

        I suspect the jurisdiction belongs to whoever owns the highway. It could be the state or it could be the county.

        A couple of heavy tow wreckers could move this machine. Less than $5000.

        But there may be political pressure to keep the machine in place. It does look cute.

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        • cadbury_moose@wandering.shopC cadbury_moose@wandering.shop

          @LanceJZ @isaackuo @archaeohistories

          That's a piece of Art, and congratulations to the locals for maintaining it.

          (Actually the capsule would have had thrusters: there would be Capsule:Flotation Bag:Heat Shield:Thruster Pack, with the thruster pack held on by straps so it could be jettisoned after deceleration but before hitting atmosphere. On one mission they re-entered with the thruster pack attached because the flotation bag light had come on and they were concerned about the heat shield.)

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          #18

          @Cadbury_Moose @isaackuo @archaeohistories there has never been a capsule with thrusters on them from Apollo on.

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          • cadbury_moose@wandering.shopC cadbury_moose@wandering.shop

            @LanceJZ @isaackuo @archaeohistories

            That's a piece of Art, and congratulations to the locals for maintaining it.

            (Actually the capsule would have had thrusters: there would be Capsule:Flotation Bag:Heat Shield:Thruster Pack, with the thruster pack held on by straps so it could be jettisoned after deceleration but before hitting atmosphere. On one mission they re-entered with the thruster pack attached because the flotation bag light had come on and they were concerned about the heat shield.)

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            #19

            @Cadbury_Moose @isaackuo @archaeohistories

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            • isaackuo@spacey.spaceI isaackuo@spacey.space

              @LanceJZ @archaeohistories They added fake thrusters to it.

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              #20

              @isaackuo @archaeohistories no duh.

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              • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                @skryking

                The photo looks like a rural highway to me. This means fairly high speeds. If a car "hits the ditch," a bumpy ride turns into a fatal accident.

                I suspect the jurisdiction belongs to whoever owns the highway. It could be the state or it could be the county.

                A couple of heavy tow wreckers could move this machine. Less than $5000.

                But there may be political pressure to keep the machine in place. It does look cute.

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                #21

                @davevolek based on Google maps image I things crushed oiled gravel.

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                • davevolek@mastodon.socialD davevolek@mastodon.social

                  @Chigaze @archaeohistories

                  I suspect it has stayed on the ground for 67 years because of its novelty and notoriety more than the expense of removing it. Locals probably like talking about it--------------until one of their own plow into it.

                  Renting a crane for four hours and a truck to haul it away is not a big expense. Municipalities use these machines a lot.

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                  #22

                  @davevolek @Chigaze @archaeohistories Or build guard rails at that location and keep the visitor attraction and historic site intact.

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                  • lancejz@mastodon.socialL lancejz@mastodon.social

                    @Cadbury_Moose @isaackuo @archaeohistories there has never been a capsule with thrusters on them from Apollo on.

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                    #23

                    @LanceJZ @isaackuo @archaeohistories

                    Back then they were still in the Mercury or Gemini programmes, and the capsule *did* have thrusters.

                    I don't have my copy of "The Right Stuff" to hand, but the incident with the "Air Cushion Inflation" warning light and the decision to re-enter with the thruster pack attached was given to the astronaut _without_ telling them why. (So it would have been Mercury.) Continued... (1/2)

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                    • cadbury_moose@wandering.shopC cadbury_moose@wandering.shop

                      @LanceJZ @isaackuo @archaeohistories

                      Back then they were still in the Mercury or Gemini programmes, and the capsule *did* have thrusters.

                      I don't have my copy of "The Right Stuff" to hand, but the incident with the "Air Cushion Inflation" warning light and the decision to re-enter with the thruster pack attached was given to the astronaut _without_ telling them why. (So it would have been Mercury.) Continued... (1/2)

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                      #24

                      @LanceJZ @isaackuo @archaeohistories

                      Mission Control were "concerned" that if the air cushion (meant to absorb the shock of landing) had inflated prematurely it would have dislodged the heat shield, and they'd have a total loss of the capsule (with extra-crispy occupant). They elected to re-enter with the thruster pack attached, and it melted with bits going past the window as the descent continued. Thankfully the warning light was due to a wiring fault. (2/last)

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                      • skryking@infosec.exchangeS skryking@infosec.exchange

                        @davevolek based on Google maps image I things crushed oiled gravel.

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                        #25

                        @skryking

                        There may indeed be more to the story.

                        I come from a rural background. Many people drive 80 kph (50 mph) on these roads. And they hit the ditch more often.

                        There might be some weight restrictions that prohibit big trucks on this road. The pavement in the photo (or oily gravel) looks a little on the weak side to me.

                        Anyways, we need more info to know why this thing has remained in the ditch for 67 years.

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                        • archaeohistories@ohai.socialA archaeohistories@ohai.social

                          In 1959, a cement mixer with a full load of cement, wrecked near Winganon, Oklahoma 🇺🇸

                          By the time a tow truck came to haul it away, all of cement had hardened inside of mixer. Tow truck was not able to remove all wreckage at same time because of weight, and decided to haul only cab/frame and would come back for detached mixer later, which never happened.

                          Today, 67 years later, it still sits where it fell. Locals have painted it and added "rocket thrusters" to make it look like a space capsule.

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                          @archaeohistories I love that idea, why not do fun with it... 🙂

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                          • cadbury_moose@wandering.shopC cadbury_moose@wandering.shop

                            @LanceJZ @isaackuo @archaeohistories

                            That's a piece of Art, and congratulations to the locals for maintaining it.

                            (Actually the capsule would have had thrusters: there would be Capsule:Flotation Bag:Heat Shield:Thruster Pack, with the thruster pack held on by straps so it could be jettisoned after deceleration but before hitting atmosphere. On one mission they re-entered with the thruster pack attached because the flotation bag light had come on and they were concerned about the heat shield.)

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                            #27

                            @Cadbury_Moose @LanceJZ @archaeohistories While this is true of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo capsules (including the Apollo service module), a reusable capsule could enter nose first rather than tail first.

                            Nuclear missile reentry heat shields are blunt cones entering nose first.

                            That said, Dragon does do tail first reentry, placing the thrusters on the sides rather than the tail. I just think it "looks" wrong.

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                            • lancejz@mastodon.socialL lancejz@mastodon.social

                              @Cadbury_Moose @isaackuo @archaeohistories there has never been a capsule with thrusters on them from Apollo on.

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                              @LanceJZ @Cadbury_Moose @archaeohistories This is what people think of when they think of the Apollo "capsule". It has a big main thruster in the tail, and lots of thruster clusters all over the place.

                              That's the reason why the artists modifying the cement mixer tank felt the need to add thrusters. It didn't look right without them, because the overall shape looks like a capsule plus its service module.

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                              • isaackuo@spacey.spaceI isaackuo@spacey.space

                                @LanceJZ @Cadbury_Moose @archaeohistories This is what people think of when they think of the Apollo "capsule". It has a big main thruster in the tail, and lots of thruster clusters all over the place.

                                That's the reason why the artists modifying the cement mixer tank felt the need to add thrusters. It didn't look right without them, because the overall shape looks like a capsule plus its service module.

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                                #29

                                @isaackuo @LanceJZ @archaeohistories

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                                • capngloval@mastodon.sdf.orgC capngloval@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @archaeohistories I love that idea, why not do fun with it... 🙂

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                                  @capngloval @archaeohistories I love stories like this where it has a happy ending or something fun is made as a result of it

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                                  • archaeohistories@ohai.socialA archaeohistories@ohai.social

                                    In 1959, a cement mixer with a full load of cement, wrecked near Winganon, Oklahoma 🇺🇸

                                    By the time a tow truck came to haul it away, all of cement had hardened inside of mixer. Tow truck was not able to remove all wreckage at same time because of weight, and decided to haul only cab/frame and would come back for detached mixer later, which never happened.

                                    Today, 67 years later, it still sits where it fell. Locals have painted it and added "rocket thrusters" to make it look like a space capsule.

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                                    #31

                                    @archaeohistories

                                    Tell me government in Oklahoma is a failure without saying government in Oklahoma is a failure.

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                                    • lancejz@mastodon.socialL lancejz@mastodon.social

                                      @Cadbury_Moose @isaackuo @archaeohistories

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                                      #32

                                      @LanceJZ @Cadbury_Moose @isaackuo @archaeohistories ok _hwat_ are those astronauts doing

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                                      • archaeohistories@ohai.socialA archaeohistories@ohai.social

                                        In 1959, a cement mixer with a full load of cement, wrecked near Winganon, Oklahoma 🇺🇸

                                        By the time a tow truck came to haul it away, all of cement had hardened inside of mixer. Tow truck was not able to remove all wreckage at same time because of weight, and decided to haul only cab/frame and would come back for detached mixer later, which never happened.

                                        Today, 67 years later, it still sits where it fell. Locals have painted it and added "rocket thrusters" to make it look like a space capsule.

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                                        #33

                                        @archaeohistories It was filled with concrete, not cement. Cement is like yeast; concrete is like bread.

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                                        • isaackuo@spacey.spaceI isaackuo@spacey.space

                                          @Cadbury_Moose @LanceJZ @archaeohistories While this is true of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo capsules (including the Apollo service module), a reusable capsule could enter nose first rather than tail first.

                                          Nuclear missile reentry heat shields are blunt cones entering nose first.

                                          That said, Dragon does do tail first reentry, placing the thrusters on the sides rather than the tail. I just think it "looks" wrong.

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                                          #34

                                          @isaackuo @Cadbury_Moose @LanceJZ @archaeohistories That is only true for modern ballistic missile RVs, initially they were launched blunt end forward, since the materials of that time didn't allow a more accurate short end forward reentry because these cause higher temperatures. (That is also why the Space Shuttle got a rather blunt nose)

                                          Also, there are far more than just one kind of capsule. Imagine this as a biconic lifting body, and it isn't that much fictive to retain its aft thrusters.

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