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  3. This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

    So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

    clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    Usually it’s Ravelry that provides that…

    I see lots of knitting chat and advice here, but I don’t know of a specific server.

    @randahl

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

      So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

      scogings@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @randahl But can the info in FB groups be trusted? Local clubs and communities in which people can interact in person are better than FB groups.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

        So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

        clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        Can you ask who provides the information?

        If fellow enthusiasts, there are probably some here, and they’ll be fine if they come in a group. Or find a group:

        https://about.fedigroups.social/directory

        If knitting stores and manufacturers, there’s a tradeoff between the stores not wanting to do the socials on yet another platform BUT surely it would be nice to have a business channel not under the thumb of a platform trap?

        If influencers… man, I don’t know, although also I don’t actually know.

        @randahl

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

          So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

          jajo@mastodon.nuJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @randahl Here is a start. Because you need to join if you want it to grow.

          https://fedigroups.social/@knitting

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          • jajo@mastodon.nuJ jajo@mastodon.nu

            @randahl Here is a start. Because you need to join if you want it to grow.

            https://fedigroups.social/@knitting

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            #9

            @randahl There is more in the fediverse gruops directory. https://fedi.directory/tag/knitting/

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

              So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

              nerb@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @randahl

              I have a similar situation. I facet as a hobby. All I use facebook for is that. Both for access to the manufacture who seems to think that is fine for support and other hobbyist.

              In a way I am a drag on facebook since I use adguard, privcy badger ublock and other items so I do not see most of the crap they want me to look at. And I avoid those reels things and such like the plague.

              4 groups on facebook are all I use. If they moved offsite I would follow. There are a few groups on here but they are dead. Maybe a message every few months at most.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                teacher_rick@mastodon.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
                teacher_rick@mastodon.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #11

                @randahl I’m subscribing to internet fora again.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                  So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                  J This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #12

                  @randahl
                  Also many small businesses (here, anyway) have fb but no web site.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                    So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                    cleoqc@cosocial.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    @randahl I'm getting lots of knitting advice and support here! More than I do on FB.
                    That said, I'm still on FB for some particular groups. Weaving doesn't seem as strong on the fediverse as FB.
                    But knitting? Yup! There's a decent size crowd!

                    #knitting

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                    • cleoqc@cosocial.caC cleoqc@cosocial.ca

                      @randahl I'm getting lots of knitting advice and support here! More than I do on FB.
                      That said, I'm still on FB for some particular groups. Weaving doesn't seem as strong on the fediverse as FB.
                      But knitting? Yup! There's a decent size crowd!

                      #knitting

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                      #14

                      @CleoQc @randahl I get much more interaction here than on other places for knitting and spinning. That said, I do belong to spinning and knitting groups on FB and many of them are very active. I can see how they would appeal to people who don’t want to venture into the fediverse.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                        So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                        kerravonsen@mastodon.auK This user is from outside of this forum
                        kerravonsen@mastodon.auK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #15

                        @randahl YES!
                        At least it does for #knitting and #crochet - follow the hashtags and/or follow the groups @knitting and @crochet
                        There is also @crafters but that isn't very active, perhaps because its focus is too broad.

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                        • kerravonsen@mastodon.auK kerravonsen@mastodon.au

                          @randahl YES!
                          At least it does for #knitting and #crochet - follow the hashtags and/or follow the groups @knitting and @crochet
                          There is also @crafters but that isn't very active, perhaps because its focus is too broad.

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                          #16

                          @randahl There are also a fair few spinners, but I'm not sure which hashtag is the best one to follow for that: #textilearts or #fiberarts or #fibrearts - maybe we all ought to switch to #textilearts simply because it avoids the confusion of US versus non-US spelling.

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                          • kerravonsen@mastodon.auK kerravonsen@mastodon.au

                            @randahl There are also a fair few spinners, but I'm not sure which hashtag is the best one to follow for that: #textilearts or #fiberarts or #fibrearts - maybe we all ought to switch to #textilearts simply because it avoids the confusion of US versus non-US spelling.

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                            #17

                            @kerravonsen @randahl Oh interesting. I have noticed the spelling difference as well and always tag US based spelling….

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                            • consumablejoy@wandering.shopC consumablejoy@wandering.shop

                              @kerravonsen @randahl Oh interesting. I have noticed the spelling difference as well and always tag US based spelling….

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                              #18

                              @kerravonsen @randahl I usually use #HandSpinning for my spinning tag… people also use #spinning (assuming it’s not a whole bunch of inside cyclists using that tag)

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                                So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                                gra3432@mastodon.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @randahl good question. There used to be forums for this kind of interaction, but they all died when ppl moved to FB. I didn't, never, for reasons, and lost contact to a lot of nice folks and there are topics I never found on t or anywhere here.

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                                  So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                                  schmaker@schmaker.euS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #20

                                  @randahl It's always the same .. "can #Mastodon do thing A that #Facebook do?"

                                  No, it can't. #Fediverse can!

                                  Just follow group created on #Lemmy / #Kbin / whatever and the functionality is there. Easy as that...

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                                    So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                                    claralistensprechen3rd@friendica.myportal.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #21
                                    @randahl The issue with staying on Facebook because of Groups is that the Groups affect other people. Some folks I know have Groups that went from Public to Private and then died off, and in that case it's not hard for a Group admin to just abandon the Group. People don't just up and leave active Groups, especially after years of membership. Mastodon might be able to establish something similar but it would all mean starting afresh; there's no moving an established Facebook Group to a different system no matter how good it may be.
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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                                      So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                                      cczona@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #22

                                      @randahl it would help to probe more about what specifically they get on facebook. There's a big difference between hobbyists seeking advice, patterns, testers, local yarn store recommendations, social connection, inspiration porn, etc. Mastodon is good for some of those. Ravelry or Instagram are better for other facets.

                                      If they haven't discovered Ravelry yet, I'd point them there first. Even after a huge loss of patterns and designers several years ago due to controversial policies, it remains the flagship social network / resource for knitters and crocheters.

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        This week I talked to two different friends who are still on Facebook, and independent of each other they both said it was because of how the Facebook groups gave them easy access to information about their hobby, e.g. knitting.

                                        So I need to ask: Can Mastodon compete with that and how?

                                        zbrando@social.vivaldi.netZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #23

                                        @randahl Technically it can but the problem is the network effect: Mastodon is much much smaller than Facebook and so you have less users to chat with and less information.

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                                        • schmaker@schmaker.euS schmaker@schmaker.eu

                                          @randahl It's always the same .. "can #Mastodon do thing A that #Facebook do?"

                                          No, it can't. #Fediverse can!

                                          Just follow group created on #Lemmy / #Kbin / whatever and the functionality is there. Easy as that...

                                          madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #24

                                          @schmaker @randahl

                                          "Easy as that..." - was that a joke?

                                          First, do an online search for Kbin. I get results for kbin.social and kbin.pub, both of which are defunct - one redirects to a non-existing subdomain, while the other is a test page at OVH Hosting.

                                          OK, make a wild guess and search for Kbin on GitHub. Aha! Found it.

                                          Scroll down to the readme-section and see this at the very first thing except the description of the project:

                                          "Note: This is a very early beta version, and a lot of features are currently broken or in active development, such as federation."

                                          If the choice stands between something that looks like a phpBB forum from 2005 and something that does not work, I'd say that the Fediverse is falling very short when it comes to replacing the functionality of Facebook groups.

                                          So, to answer the question asked:

                                          No, Mastodon can't compete with Facebook groups, and, frankly, neither can the Fediverse.

                                          Lemmy is probably the best bet here, but the user interface will scare most potential users away. It's functional, but looks like something you can't take seriously in 2026.

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