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  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

    hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

    anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

    someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

    here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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    #2

    @davidgerard here’s David’s post with the YouTube video: https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/117050465686356385

    if you give a shit about truth and ethics in science communication and media, please show your friends who watch YouTube or TikTok or any of the other video sites what a shill looks like when they expose themselves. this is it. there’s no doubt that this is what green has done. don’t forgive him when he comes crawling back blaming anything but his own greed.

    you will see more of this from influencers very soon, and next time you need to not be surprised that it happened. you need to know marketing when you see it, even if you trust the mouth the words are coming from.

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

      anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

      someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

      here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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      #3

      @zzt @davidgerard@circumstances.run goddamit

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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        @davidgerard here’s David’s post with the YouTube video: https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/117050465686356385

        if you give a shit about truth and ethics in science communication and media, please show your friends who watch YouTube or TikTok or any of the other video sites what a shill looks like when they expose themselves. this is it. there’s no doubt that this is what green has done. don’t forgive him when he comes crawling back blaming anything but his own greed.

        you will see more of this from influencers very soon, and next time you need to not be surprised that it happened. you need to know marketing when you see it, even if you trust the mouth the words are coming from.

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        #4

        @davidgerard I’m very serious about this by the way

        if you respect science, you must not forgive hank green. you must spread the word on what he’s done, especially if you used to be a fan. this is corruption in the raw and what he’s done must be known.

        if you respect science, you must verify the claims of science communicators independently and reject any who are doing marketing. most of the major YouTube science communicators are doing paid, undisclosed marketing for effective altruists or for political groups. this isn’t hard to spot, but you must be critical and you can’t let yourself be impressed by perceived celebrity, popularity, or production values.

        if you respect science, you have to demand accountability. science is actively under attack and if we don’t do anything to defend it, we will be in a new dark age. this is the moment, and you don’t have to do much. you just have to be very loud and very unforgiving.

        giflian@techhub.socialG nil@critters.gayN michaeltbacon@social.coopM ljrk@todon.euL xan@xantronix.socialX 7 Replies Last reply
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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          @davidgerard I’m very serious about this by the way

          if you respect science, you must not forgive hank green. you must spread the word on what he’s done, especially if you used to be a fan. this is corruption in the raw and what he’s done must be known.

          if you respect science, you must verify the claims of science communicators independently and reject any who are doing marketing. most of the major YouTube science communicators are doing paid, undisclosed marketing for effective altruists or for political groups. this isn’t hard to spot, but you must be critical and you can’t let yourself be impressed by perceived celebrity, popularity, or production values.

          if you respect science, you have to demand accountability. science is actively under attack and if we don’t do anything to defend it, we will be in a new dark age. this is the moment, and you don’t have to do much. you just have to be very loud and very unforgiving.

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          #5

          @zzt I remember when Scishow put out a dumb/incorrect video about knitting last year that some people speculated that his team had used AI to write it. It was definitely "phoned in" one way or another. So the current controversy isn't as surprising to me as it might've been.

          I wish more people recognized that the AI boosters and AI doomers are both on the same team.

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

            anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

            someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

            here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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            #6

            @zzt @davidgerard that's quite a quote.
            “It’s really hard to run a fellowship that’s not an indoctrination camp,” Fernandez said. “If you don’t try really hard to not make an indoctrination camp, you will on accident.”

            No, it's not. If you're in a cult and making an indoctrination camp, it's hard to pretend that's not what you're doing.

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              @davidgerard I’m very serious about this by the way

              if you respect science, you must not forgive hank green. you must spread the word on what he’s done, especially if you used to be a fan. this is corruption in the raw and what he’s done must be known.

              if you respect science, you must verify the claims of science communicators independently and reject any who are doing marketing. most of the major YouTube science communicators are doing paid, undisclosed marketing for effective altruists or for political groups. this isn’t hard to spot, but you must be critical and you can’t let yourself be impressed by perceived celebrity, popularity, or production values.

              if you respect science, you have to demand accountability. science is actively under attack and if we don’t do anything to defend it, we will be in a new dark age. this is the moment, and you don’t have to do much. you just have to be very loud and very unforgiving.

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              #7

              @zzt@mas.to @davidgerard@circumstances.run i stopped watching hank a long time ago. i have a distrust of anyone who plays nyt games

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              • kevingranade@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kevingranade@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @zzt @davidgerard that's quite a quote.
                “It’s really hard to run a fellowship that’s not an indoctrination camp,” Fernandez said. “If you don’t try really hard to not make an indoctrination camp, you will on accident.”

                No, it's not. If you're in a cult and making an indoctrination camp, it's hard to pretend that's not what you're doing.

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                #8

                @kevingranade @zzt "“It’s really hard to run a fellowship that’s not an indoctrination camp if you're working with Aella, who never saw a room she didn't want to turn into a cult"

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                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                  hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

                  anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

                  someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

                  here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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                  #9

                  @zzt @davidgerard when one of the videos on hank green's personal channel got an ai company sponsoring it about 8 months ago, i was confused by it, and looked into ai doomerism, and stopped watching

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    @kevingranade @zzt "“It’s really hard to run a fellowship that’s not an indoctrination camp if you're working with Aella, who never saw a room she didn't want to turn into a cult"

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                    #10

                    @davidgerard @kevingranade @zzt As soon as I saw the Hank Green thing, I was five nine’s sure he was on the payroll.

                    Oh, and what next-level-genius-influencer settles for $10k to get water boarded? Didn’t even one of them have the sense to tell someone to fuck right off and walk out the door?

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

                      anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

                      someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

                      here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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                      #11

                      @zzt @davidgerard

                      ten week residential? that should be a warning by itself.

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                      • labspokane@mas.toL labspokane@mas.to

                        @davidgerard @kevingranade @zzt As soon as I saw the Hank Green thing, I was five nine’s sure he was on the payroll.

                        Oh, and what next-level-genius-influencer settles for $10k to get water boarded? Didn’t even one of them have the sense to tell someone to fuck right off and walk out the door?

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                        #12

                        @LabSpokane @kevingranade @zzt oh they were excited! you've never seen a crowd so interested in getting waterboarded!

                        mind you that's after interacting with aella,

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          @LabSpokane @kevingranade @zzt oh they were excited! you've never seen a crowd so interested in getting waterboarded!

                          mind you that's after interacting with aella,

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                          #13

                          @davidgerard @kevingranade @zzt Sweet Jesus, I just search for who that was and now I want to be pressure-cooked in disinfectant.

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                          • labspokane@mas.toL labspokane@mas.to

                            @davidgerard @kevingranade @zzt Sweet Jesus, I just search for who that was and now I want to be pressure-cooked in disinfectant.

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                            #14

                            @LabSpokane @davidgerard @kevingranade @zzt she does rather have that effect, yes. welcome to the cursed knowledge, her influence spans unfortunately far too widely 😐

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                            • nil@critters.gayN nil@critters.gay

                              @zzt@mas.to @davidgerard@circumstances.run i stopped watching hank a long time ago. i have a distrust of anyone who plays nyt games

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                              #15

                              @nil @davidgerard @zzt spiritually awakened by this reply

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                              • labspokane@mas.toL labspokane@mas.to

                                @davidgerard @kevingranade @zzt Sweet Jesus, I just search for who that was and now I want to be pressure-cooked in disinfectant.

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                                #16

                                @LabSpokane @kevingranade @zzt given her showering non-habits, she needs to go first

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                                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                  @davidgerard I’m very serious about this by the way

                                  if you respect science, you must not forgive hank green. you must spread the word on what he’s done, especially if you used to be a fan. this is corruption in the raw and what he’s done must be known.

                                  if you respect science, you must verify the claims of science communicators independently and reject any who are doing marketing. most of the major YouTube science communicators are doing paid, undisclosed marketing for effective altruists or for political groups. this isn’t hard to spot, but you must be critical and you can’t let yourself be impressed by perceived celebrity, popularity, or production values.

                                  if you respect science, you have to demand accountability. science is actively under attack and if we don’t do anything to defend it, we will be in a new dark age. this is the moment, and you don’t have to do much. you just have to be very loud and very unforgiving.

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                                  #17

                                  @zzt @davidgerard

                                  Shame on Green, but if I permanently banned everyone on the internet who did something colossally stupid or bought into some terrible narrative before, I would have no one but a couple of totally insufferable arseholes and some teenagers who joined the internet yesterday to talk to. (And folk wouldn’t talk to me either)

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                                  • michaeltbacon@social.coopM michaeltbacon@social.coop

                                    @zzt @davidgerard

                                    Shame on Green, but if I permanently banned everyone on the internet who did something colossally stupid or bought into some terrible narrative before, I would have no one but a couple of totally insufferable arseholes and some teenagers who joined the internet yesterday to talk to. (And folk wouldn’t talk to me either)

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                                    #18

                                    @MichaelTBacon @davidgerard the fuck is the point of this post, Michael?

                                    hank green is an influencer who exchanged his credibility for a paycheck. he now gets to lose his influence.

                                    believe it or not I don’t particularly want shitty guys who take large amounts of money in exchange for doing shitty things on the Internet, and in this case it’s really easy to stop the guy

                                    speaking of not seeing shitty people doing shitty things on my feed though, fuck along now

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                                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                      hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

                                      anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

                                      someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

                                      here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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                                      #19

                                      @davidgerard “shame on green but” eat shit. this is a self-admitted shill doing active damage to science and since he’s an influencer, we can stop him by spreading the word. this is the one clearcut case where having a problem with someone on the internet will stop the damage they can do.

                                      the fuck is wrong with you that you want to give this a pass? you want guys like this to be spokespeople for scientific truth? why?

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                                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                        @davidgerard “shame on green but” eat shit. this is a self-admitted shill doing active damage to science and since he’s an influencer, we can stop him by spreading the word. this is the one clearcut case where having a problem with someone on the internet will stop the damage they can do.

                                        the fuck is wrong with you that you want to give this a pass? you want guys like this to be spokespeople for scientific truth? why?

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                                        #20

                                        @zzt the "he's an important science educator though!!!" has been bewildering to me. this whole thing shows he's of no value there, if the issues with the knitting vid and HRT vid hadn't already proven that.

                                        and even if he was actually giving reliably good info: just use your eyes, man. as bad as search is right now, we have Wikipedia and so many online resources. I learn advanced biology from social media! just Learn Shit.

                                        you don't need a guy to spoonfeed you bullshit I promise.

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                                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                          @davidgerard “shame on green but” eat shit. this is a self-admitted shill doing active damage to science and since he’s an influencer, we can stop him by spreading the word. this is the one clearcut case where having a problem with someone on the internet will stop the damage they can do.

                                          the fuck is wrong with you that you want to give this a pass? you want guys like this to be spokespeople for scientific truth? why?

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                                          #21

                                          @davidgerard “oh we can’t ban everyone from the internet who makes a mistake” boy I wish my mistakes resulted in a gigantic paycheck, but this wasn’t a mistake

                                          green spent over a year doing crafted undisclosed marketing, choosing and framing topics to forward the Effective Altruist mission to make LLMs look dangerous but powerful (a type of critihype marketing invented by the AI corporations that funnel money into effective altruism, but you didn’t need me to tell you that as both OpenAI’s Altman and Anthropic’s Amodei have spouted the same talking points as Green), and interviewing members of the Effective Altruist and TESCREAL communities

                                          that’s not a mistake, that’s labor. that’s why these rich fucking assholes paid him. his job was to convince you that the science on LLMs is that they’re very powerful and therefore very dangerous.

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