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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    @osman @seq @morgunkorn hmm. the first email floats the idea of reducing search quality to get more queries, with a caveat of being uncomfortable about it. the rest looks like the results of projects and efforts that were ongoing at the time. am I missing a detail in that email chain that demonstrates that they actually followed through? don't get me wrong, it's gross that they even floated the idea, but if this is intended to be evidentiary proof of committal then I'm not seeing a smoking gun.

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    #134

    @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn Pretty obvious that they kept the metric that keeps users on their website.
    Also logical they are doing this. Now they are tuning it so it's just shit, but not shit enough that users will leave.

    Important stuff like web search shouldn't be free.
    I'm really eyeballing to get @kagihq it's a bit expensive atm.

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    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
      Turns out that was on purpose

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      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #135

      @ocean I was literally just wondering about this. Gemini works amazing compared to search, and so they could get users to embrace AI simply by making search worse

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      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
        Turns out that was on purpose

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        petrichorsquirrel@meow.social
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #136

        @ocean I've noticed that whenever I use google, I instinctively ignore the first 5 results because I know they will not be what I want.

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        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
          Turns out that was on purpose

          lazysupper@famichiki.jpL This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #137

          @ocean
          #degoogle

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          • delve@deadinsi.deD delve@deadinsi.de

            @ocean Least surprising revelation of the year to be honest.

            I think the exact same thing is true of YouTube, which is so dominant that they can make it shittier every day and people will still use it.

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            shadsterling@mastodon.social
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #138

            @delve @ocean At least with YouTube you can pay to get it ad-free. Google doesn’t have a way to pay to get actually good search results

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            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
              Turns out that was on purpose

              lisa0480@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #139

              @ocean Glad I've already ditched Google in favour of Qwant

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              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                Turns out that was on purpose

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                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #140

                enshittification explained again

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                • xepia_@social.bau-ha.usX xepia_@social.bau-ha.us

                  @morgunkorn
                  Yup.
                  https://archive.is/HoB1U

                  @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest @christianschwaegerl

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                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #141

                  @xepia_ @morgunkorn @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest thanks

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #142

                    @ocean how to #degoogle? Could you recommend another browser to me? Ths.👍

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                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                      Turns out that was on purpose

                      irina@wandering.shopI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #143

                      @ocean "interact with more ads"? I don't think I've never interacted with any ads except right-click to block them.

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                      • raktheundead@vmst.ioR raktheundead@vmst.io

                        @ocean: Ed Zitron wrote comprehensively on the people responsible.

                        https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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                        #144

                        @raktheundead @ocean It appears their "code yellow" has left them in the code brown.

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                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                          #145

                          @ocean 🤯

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                          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                            Turns out that was on purpose

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                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #146
                            @ocean@raru.re
                            I'm shocked.
                            Shicked!
                            ... Well, not that shocked...
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                            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                              Turns out that was on purpose

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                              #147

                              @ocean so they did the grocery store thing on a technological level.

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                              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                Turns out that was on purpose

                                cali@chaosfem.twC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #148

                                @ocean this … explains so much

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

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                                  #149

                                  @ocean Source?

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                                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                                    #150

                                    @ocean ladies and gentlemen, and those betwixt and/or in literally any dimensional relation to those, or no relation at all, THE PROFIT MOTIVE! It will fucking kill us all.

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                                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                      Turns out that was on purpose

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                                      #151

                                      @ocean The ultimate endgame, the most effective way to play the advertising game is to trap all users in an inescapable maze of ads forever so they see as many ads as possible.

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                                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                        Turns out that was on purpose

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                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #152

                                        @ocean not just google, all search engines return shit results, even if they try not to, because of infestations of advertising and misdirection markers at every turn.

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                                        • mistermaker@fosstodon.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #153

                                          @gsuberland @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq Oh no that sounds bad.... I am not against AI stuff, you just have to see it as a fancy spelling and grammar check.

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