Many of the people I do have online conversations with speak English as their first language.
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Many of the people I do have online conversations with speak English as their first language. I kinda get by but you native speakers really underestimate how hard it is to express oneself in a foreign language. Concepts work differently, metaphors don't really translate, references you have used for decades don't make sense.
@tante it's not the yellow of the egg
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Many of the people I do have online conversations with speak English as their first language. I kinda get by but you native speakers really underestimate how hard it is to express oneself in a foreign language. Concepts work differently, metaphors don't really translate, references you have used for decades don't make sense.
Like in German I am actually somewhat eloquent and texts I write don't look like a person with a head injury wrote them.
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Many of the people I do have online conversations with speak English as their first language. I kinda get by but you native speakers really underestimate how hard it is to express oneself in a foreign language. Concepts work differently, metaphors don't really translate, references you have used for decades don't make sense.
I have been lucky to work with people who are not in the US. I really need to think about what I am saying when I speak to them to make sure I'm communicating clearly and I never use slang until I hear them use it. (Sometimes I ask if they know the term before I use it as well)
I have so much respect for people who can work in a second language.
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Many of the people I do have online conversations with speak English as their first language. I kinda get by but you native speakers really underestimate how hard it is to express oneself in a foreign language. Concepts work differently, metaphors don't really translate, references you have used for decades don't make sense.
@tante My German is a car wreck. I mean, it's fluent enough. but people really don't understand that I will never really be ME in German, and I'll never wield German the way I do English.
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Like in German I am actually somewhat eloquent and texts I write don't look like a person with a head injury wrote them.
(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
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@tante My German is a car wreck. I mean, it's fluent enough. but people really don't understand that I will never really be ME in German, and I'll never wield German the way I do English.
@grrrr_shark yeah that captures it well. I also can't fully be "me" in English
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(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
@tante if I didn’t see you post in German every so often, I would think you were a native English speaker
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(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
@tante now that is just very bad form!
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@tante if I didn’t see you post in German every so often, I would think you were a native English speaker
️@Ashedryden that is very kind of you to say
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(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
@tante As a native English speaker and trained, professional English writer, let me reassure you that your writing is excellent.
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Many of the people I do have online conversations with speak English as their first language. I kinda get by but you native speakers really underestimate how hard it is to express oneself in a foreign language. Concepts work differently, metaphors don't really translate, references you have used for decades don't make sense.
@tante the number of times I catch myself using a frech idiom in english that make sense only to french speakers
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@tante As a native English speaker and trained, professional English writer, let me reassure you that your writing is excellent.
@troublewithwords thank you, I appreciate you saying that
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@tante the number of times I catch myself using a frech idiom in english that make sense only to french speakers
@tournesol yeah. I'm basically just writing German with the words replaced.
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Like in German I am actually somewhat eloquent and texts I write don't look like a person with a head injury wrote them.
@tante
You english is fine. That can one understand.
(No seriously, from one non-native speaker to another, your english is impressive.)
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(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
@tante If ppl are unable to bring up some really valid points against your reasoning, they will go as low as starting to pick your grammar and wording apart. No surprise there. Don't let them get to you.
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(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
@tante This reminds me of that "semantic ablation" article from last week: https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/
I prefer real character of actual writing, and there's an extra... energy? tension? in English written by nonnative speakers. It gives a glimpse into alternative ways of slicing concepts that enriches rather than depletes the writing.
Screw the naysayers.
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(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
@tante you got the point across amazingly well. There were clumsy expressions, but few and far between. Better than I could ever express myself, and I've been learning, reading and speaking english regularly for over 40 years. I guess those people had to attack the form because it was too hard to find fault in the content.
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(Sparked by some of the comments to my recent article about Cory Doctorow telling me how my writing sucks and is unreadable because of grammar mistakes and typos.)
Such accusations are obvious and ridiculous deflections.
These people are not being honest.
Please do not believe them.
(A native English speaker)
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@grrrr_shark yeah that captures it well. I also can't fully be "me" in English
@tante @grrrr_shark and the better you are in the foreign language, the worse it gets because people don't have that subconscious "oh this is their 2nd language. I better speak simply" trigger.
Paul Taylor has a great bit about this (Warning: strong language in both English and French. You can turn on translated CC if you don't speak French)
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@tante This reminds me of that "semantic ablation" article from last week: https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/semantic_ablation_ai_writing/
I prefer real character of actual writing, and there's an extra... energy? tension? in English written by nonnative speakers. It gives a glimpse into alternative ways of slicing concepts that enriches rather than depletes the writing.
Screw the naysayers.
@elizayer oh that article sounds interesting (and will provide a great excuse for my ideosyncratic writing style ;))
