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  • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

    A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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    #11

    @thirstybear Ah, thanks for sharing it. I found the quote on Bsky and shared it over there.

    https://bsky.app/profile/scalzi.com/post/3mj6q3pdblc2y

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    • triptilt@mastoart.socialT triptilt@mastoart.social

      @thirstybear
      why plural? and why is he not on mastodon??? 🙂

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      #12

      @TripTilt @thirstybear He is: @scalzi

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      • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

        A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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        #13

        @thirstybear very aptly put!

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        • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

          A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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          #14

          @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

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          • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

            A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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            #15

            @thirstybear in my long quest to find AI any use, I found "one shot usage programs". So you generate them once. They do a thing by only running once, and then you never ever need them again. Especially you don't need to maintain them as you delete the program immediately after use.
            That's a very specific use case. Security researchers do that.

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            • dneary@mastodon.ieD dneary@mastodon.ie

              @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

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              #16

              @dneary
              Redshirts, The Kaiju Preservation Society
              @thirstybear

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              • resuna@ohai.socialR resuna@ohai.social

                @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

                LLMs are like AN/FO explosive when compared to most uses of machine learning style fire.

                "You object to me blowing up your house but I see you using a gas stove."

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                #17

                @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear You probably use an ML system every time you spend money - every transaction is fraud scored at some point, some multiple times.

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                • dneary@mastodon.ieD dneary@mastodon.ie

                  @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

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                  #18

                  @dneary @thirstybear The Old Man's War series is really good.

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                  • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                    A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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                    #19

                    @thirstybear - and this assunes there is, in fact, legitimate uses for AI, which very muchremains to be proven...

                    kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK cinebox@masto.hackers.townC 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                      @thirstybear - and this assunes there is, in fact, legitimate uses for AI, which very muchremains to be proven...

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                      #20

                      JWcph, Radicalized By Decency It’s been very good foor the rapid spread if disinformation!

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                      • dneary@mastodon.ieD dneary@mastodon.ie

                        @thirstybear I enjoyed his book about the accidental supervillain! What else of his should I read next?

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                        #21

                        @dneary @thirstybear the Old Man's War series is pretty good

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                        • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                          A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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                          #22

                          @thirstybear One problem with this analogy is that the people talking about the arson ring often suggest banning fire rather than stopping arsonists from misusing it and the only way to get them to focus on the arsonists starts with reminding them that fire can be useful.

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                          • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                            @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear You probably use an ML system every time you spend money - every transaction is fraud scored at some point, some multiple times.

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                            #23

                            @TimWardCam
                            *Someone* (bank or payment processor) uses ML (edit: which are not LLMs) to check my transactions, not me and not (usually) the party I'm actively engaging with. What was your point?
                            @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

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                            • yugthebug@mastodon.socialY yugthebug@mastodon.social

                              @jmax

                              @thirstybear I think they mean machine learning, not llms

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                              #24

                              @yugthebug @thirstybear No. There are no commercial services that use anything except LLMs. The techbros really belive it's a universal solution.
                              In the modern world, AI == LLM.

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                              • scriptfanix@maly.ioS scriptfanix@maly.io

                                @TimWardCam
                                *Someone* (bank or payment processor) uses ML (edit: which are not LLMs) to check my transactions, not me and not (usually) the party I'm actively engaging with. What was your point?
                                @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

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                                #25

                                @ScriptFanix @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear That not all "AI" is LLM and not all non-LLM "AI" is evil. Many people here get that, but there are plenty who don't.

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                                • scriptfanix@maly.ioS scriptfanix@maly.io

                                  @TimWardCam
                                  *Someone* (bank or payment processor) uses ML (edit: which are not LLMs) to check my transactions, not me and not (usually) the party I'm actively engaging with. What was your point?
                                  @resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

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                                  #26

                                  @ScriptFanix @TimWardCam @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear If you use the term AI in modern language, you're talking about LLMs. Part of the scam is to pretend that they are synonyms, and they've won that fight.

                                  You're helping with the con by continuing to refer to actual useful technologies as "AI".

                                  Scalzi meant AI in the colloquial sense of LLMs. Stop playing "well actually" games that only benefit con artists.

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                                  • delilahtech@tech.lgbtD delilahtech@tech.lgbt

                                    @dneary
                                    Redshirts, The Kaiju Preservation Society
                                    @thirstybear

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                                    #27

                                    @DelilahTech @dneary Another vote for Kaiju Preservation Society here. I’m new to the author so playing catchup, but everyone mentions the Old Man’s War series.

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                                    • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                                      A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.

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                                      #28

                                      @thirstybear

                                      I think, when pressed, those folks will describe their expectations and hopes instead of the violent, deadly, abusive, perverted, racist human-culling device that its depraved creators call 'intelligence' to put detractors on their back foot to begin with.

                                      They began from the premise it was god and then built it.
                                      Fucking lunatics.
                                      And to a one, supporters of any measure are not my ally.

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                                      • jmax@mastodon.socialJ jmax@mastodon.social

                                        @ScriptFanix @TimWardCam @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear If you use the term AI in modern language, you're talking about LLMs. Part of the scam is to pretend that they are synonyms, and they've won that fight.

                                        You're helping with the con by continuing to refer to actual useful technologies as "AI".

                                        Scalzi meant AI in the colloquial sense of LLMs. Stop playing "well actually" games that only benefit con artists.

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                                        #29

                                        @jmax 💯
                                        They (LLM pushers) successfully took over the meaning of "AI". Let us all accept that and use more specific terms when we mean something else. AI has never been a well defined term anyway and can be used to describe about anything
                                        @TimWardCam @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear

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                                        • scriptfanix@maly.ioS scriptfanix@maly.io

                                          @jmax 💯
                                          They (LLM pushers) successfully took over the meaning of "AI". Let us all accept that and use more specific terms when we mean something else. AI has never been a well defined term anyway and can be used to describe about anything
                                          @TimWardCam @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear

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                                          #30

                                          @ScriptFanix @jmax @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear The one that pisses me off is "organic", but I accept that that one's lost.

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