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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

    One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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    #75

    @mcc I'm sure Apple's pcs are non-surveillance pcs.

    All the ecosystem narrative is surveillance.

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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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      #76

      @mcc GrapheneOS will keep all of the junk out for as long as it is able to keep existing.

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

        One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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        #77

        @mcc The surveillance PC mentioned in LITTLE BROTHER will be defeated. And probably in someplace like Canada or Finland or Poland, where they don't care if you threaten the country with tariffs for ignoring DCMA. They already have tariffs.

        I'm sure someone will figure out how to overwrite the firmware so you can load linux on the thing. It took how long for Chromebooks to become crap?

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        • ox1de@cyberplace.socialO ox1de@cyberplace.social

          @mcc I'm sure others already did it, but I'm at the point of deleting all my gmail accounts. I'm done with this.

          Google can eat a dick straight up!

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          #78

          @Ox1de @mcc You’re putting a lot of confidence in Google if you think that ”deleting” your accounts does anything except lock you out of it.

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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            #79

            @mcc Sounds like you haven't heard about the future of ChromeOS and Android.

            https://aluminium-os.com/

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            • oatmeal@kolektiva.socialO oatmeal@kolektiva.social

              @mcc “Surveillance PC”

              We need a system to name and categorize the distinct harms #AI will unleash upon humanity.

              The "Magic Pointer" feature works by wiggling your cursor: it uses Gemini to offer contextual suggestions for whatever's under the pointer. The cursor is literally reporting what you point at back to Google (Gemini).

              #google #gemini #aicon #aihype

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              #80

              @oatmeal @mcc

              anything from google is about farming data about users, but you know that already

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              • dekkzz78@ruby.socialD dekkzz78@ruby.social

                @oatmeal @mcc

                anything from google is about farming data about users, but you know that already

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                #81

                @dekkzz78 I guess in Europe there’s some legal protections for users but this is many many steps into an Orwellian nightmare. Even if Microsoft copilot sort of fizzled into a joke in media coverage windows users have no choice. Google’s customers neither. No opt out from chrome to which ever other product. Tech media and mainstream media will regurgitate the misleading local on device llm line, as if processing locally means Google doesn’t collect all this information. A disaster and like social media, no regulation until it’s too late.

                @mcc

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                  One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                  #82

                  @mcc wow I thought we were cooked before, but clearly the horrors have other plans

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                  • romion00bie@mastodon.socialR romion00bie@mastodon.social

                    @dreamos82 @mcc Jolla Phones were sold out, sadly...

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                    #83

                    @romion00bie @mcc there is a new batch full price, it has still 556 unuts available. https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sep-ii-2026

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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                      One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                      #84

                      @mcc
                      'Does your computer work without internet' is literally an 'it's complicated' answer at this point.

                      This is just...not good.

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                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                        Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                        One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                        #85

                        @mcc everything visible anywhere is already a llm input, but I understand the initiative.

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                          One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                          #86

                          @mcc can't wait until my kid's school gives them one of these 😡

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                          • jonfr600@mastodon.socialJ jonfr600@mastodon.social

                            @mcc In a recent update. Samsung is increasing their a.i stuff in Android. This with the Google a.i stuff is making Android unusable. I am forced to use Android for various reasons, also because there is no competition on the market.

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                            #87

                            @jonfr600 @mcc at the moment Samsung still seem to allow you to turn all the "AI" stuff off on their 'phones'. Most of the switches are even together in one place ("Galaxy AI") in your settings. I do turn all the "AI" off and then my Android 16 S25 is a perfectly usable device.

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                            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                              Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                              One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                              #88

                              @mcc Fucking disgrace. 😩

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                #89

                                @mcc And to think their strapline used to be: "Don't be evil".

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                                • bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB bolomkxxviii@mastodon.social

                                  @mcc I wonder how locked down the hardware will be. In a couple of years, maybe these things will be cheap, and they can be wiped and have Linux installed on them.

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                                  #90

                                  @BoloMKXXVIII

                                  Yep.
                                  Never tried myself, but apparently installing Linux on chromebooks is doable.
                                  A real PITA, but doable.
                                  Which makes ARM ones very nice bacpack computers : very light and with incredible battery life.

                                  @mcc

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                                    #91

                                    @otte_homan @zambezi @mcc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geofence_warrant

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                                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                      Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                      One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                      #92

                                      @mcc time to build a cyberdeck istg

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                                      • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                                        @jonfr600 @mcc at the moment Samsung still seem to allow you to turn all the "AI" stuff off on their 'phones'. Most of the switches are even together in one place ("Galaxy AI") in your settings. I do turn all the "AI" off and then my Android 16 S25 is a perfectly usable device.

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                                        #93

                                        @marjolica @jonfr600 @mcc

                                        I don't appear to have Galaxy AI on my A54 (yet). Also Android 16

                                        Gemini is disabled.

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                                        • romion00bie@mastodon.socialR romion00bie@mastodon.social

                                          @dreamos82 @mcc Jolla Phones were sold out, sadly...

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                                          #94

                                          @romion00bie @mcc I see you were mentioning the C2, usually they come back after few weeks (reason i preordered the jolla phone was because the c2 was sold out when i wanted to order it, i suggest wait few weeks, and it should be back hopefully)

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