Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
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@Unabart Don't worry, I will. Just wanted you to see it first.
@annika Still don’t give a fuck. Go away.
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@CiaraNi @forestfjord That's exactely how I feel - it feels too big at the moment.
I already have so many posts that I would have to keep this account anyway, and then it'll seem a bit silly to move in my honest opinion.
But if I get sick of where I am now, it's nice to know that I do have the option of moving.
@lykkebrammer @CiaraNi @forestfjord it's also allowed to have more than one account, as many as you like in fact! You can even set up aliases to point from one to the other. This is the first step of moving, but you can also just keep both. Just mentioning in case you'd like to try another instance but isn't ready to move yet.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi I only have a presence on Masto as Bluesky was promoting eating disorders and X was full of racists
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi
So true. Like being mugged by the cloakroom attendant. -
@lykkebrammer @CiaraNi @forestfjord it's also allowed to have more than one account, as many as you like in fact! You can even set up aliases to point from one to the other. This is the first step of moving, but you can also just keep both. Just mentioning in case you'd like to try another instance but isn't ready to move yet.
@benjaminlj @CiaraNi @forestfjord Thank you for sharing this great advise - the alias is something worth factoring in, if I ever venture out
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi "You're seriously using Signal to text your grandma? She needs to install an XMPP client ASAP. If she doesn't build from scratch you can't be sure the CIA won't be able to see the time a message was sent."
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi Personally, I really appreciated being told to get off of dot social back when I joined, but maybe that's just me
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi
I am not a tech savvy person at all. Came to computers late in life, don't know how they work under the hood. I didn't come here from some other social media because I didn't use social media then. Heard about Mastodon in a news article, and was curious.Since you don't have to sign up first in order to explore, I just lurked and explored for a few months, cautiously, since I'd heard bad things about social media in general. But I liked what I found, and finally decided to sign up.
I had jumped around exploring without ever noticing there are different servers. So when I decided to click on "sign-up", it just signed me onto whatever server I happened to be reading a post on at the moment. So sheer chance. But I'm happy enough with where I ended up.
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@CiaraNi Personally, I really appreciated being told to get off of dot social back when I joined, but maybe that's just me
️@delve @CiaraNi If someone explains compassionately and entirely without prescription or judgement the rationale for why another person might want to do so that may be helpful (I think I’d have appreciated it too had I started there), though for some people just signing up in the first place maxed out their energy and they’ll bounce off and be slow to return.
There seems to be a subculture that’s a lot more performatively judgmental, akin to being snooty about someone’s “poor taste” choosing a low rent neighborhood on moving from abroad, a sense of “if you don’t already know everything about us AND share our opinions about how to do it right we don’t need or want you here.”
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@CiaraNi I joined mastodon.social after Reddit decided that only their mobile app should be viable and alternatives must die. Afterwards explored Fediverse and made few other fedi accounts on different places (I like Misskey a lot but it's a hog for resources so Mastodon better for my phone while Misskey for fan art searching and boosting).
Later on saw discussion about how open registration services have provided good breeding ground for harassment and some were vile, sure they only gone for big people (aka who have big following) but that didn't sit with me right. So later decided to move to blorbo. I didn't know what blorbo means then (and still fuzzy) but I knew a good person from there so decided to move my account from mastodon.social . It was less painful than I expected while losing post history felt bad but think it was worth it overall. The good or bad is the loss of endless scrolling of (Trending) tab, mastodon.social you can scroll and scroll and scroll but it's not a thing on blorbo.social.I kinda agree with both sides about move and not move. It's easier to move while you don't have big post history and didn't get comfy, but finding good new place is really hard. Recommending someone else perfect fedi instance also a hard task. Having so many options means there also many different attitudes that they might've loved one option but they gone to mastodon.social and treat it as everywhere is the same.
So I mostly try to point out options without telling what you have to do, sometimes expanding someone horizon is enough but getting buried with terminology is also a thing. Honestly people should have several accounts and then stick with what they like, having spare account on big instance means less headache if your small instance closed up suddenly.
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@johnlorimer @annika It is a great analogy, for which I can take no credit. I read an article that used Asbestos for an AI analogy (I want to say it was Cory Doctorow, but am too lazy to check right now). I've used it ever since, I think it really captures that situation and the mess that AI is making for the future.
@CiaraNi @johnlorimer @annika I think I recall Cory Doctorow saying this, yeah
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@toothless
I'd love to see a map like this of North America and some theories of why different areas pronounce it the way they do.I definitely say it in a way that rhymes with 'cone' and have no idea why.
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@DavidBridger @CiaraNi there were few survivors of the scone/skon wars. #skonskonskon
@Wifiwits @DavidBridger @CiaraNi most of the survivors were muffins and bagels, thus forever changing English tea habits.
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi The funny(ish) thing is that Bluesky is just as purity testy about people going there from Twitter. But all that does help you decide who you want to interact with (one way or the other).
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The fact that the thread under this Serious Toot has ascended into a pleasant war about the correct way to pronounce Scone is why I love the Fediverse
@CiaraNi I’m not sure about the correct pronunciation, but I don’t really like scones. (Ducks & hides under the table…)
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@annika To keep the answer simple - I think it is the only corner of the internet left that is worthwhile. It aligns with my values.
It helps that I am a life long nerd.After Something Awful died I undocked from social, I was already kicked off of FB for pointing out so much toxicity (but also using it to track those Malhaur assholes which was awesome). That banning also took Insta of course and then pre musk Twitter banned me for trolling conservatives during trump1. I'm even banned from Reddit because, before they sold all of their users content to train LLMs, I used a cool little script to replace everything I'd posted over like five years with identical, pointless text! They didn't appreciate the gesture apparently
At some point after that I tried masto and stayed here. It has none of the toxicity (well kind of none, looking at you Babka) and at least some of the old SA community feel.
I'd invite pretty much any of you out for coffee, beer or to shoot arrows at targets, that's not true for those other sites.
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Ditto:
'Why are you still on Bluesky too?'
'But did you *delete* your Twitter account?'
’You said you switched to Proton mail too, oh that’s bad, once someone at Proton said something’
It’s nice to see new neighbours move into the Fediverse. It feels unwelcoming to see people immediately interview them about the purity of their intentions. Or telling them You’re Doing It Wrong. They've just arrived on a journey away from Big Tech. Maybe they'd prefer to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.
@CiaraNi And some people need their twitter account. I need twitter to contact my ISP via DM. Without twitter, I would need to use the phone and I'm not doing that if I can avoid it.
Plus, I have deleted all my posts, likes, etc. and changed my profile to encourage everyone to leave. I just sit there as a dead account. Maybe they count those as active, but at this point, anyone advertizing over there is doing it because they are nazi adjacent and don't really care about normal things.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi ich hatte auch meinen ersten Account auf m.s.
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@imalcolm The 'anti-welcome committee' - that is what it feels like. They could just ignore and scroll by, but apparently feel the need to stand on the new neighbour's doorstep telling them to move. Am sorry you had that experience. Am glad you stayed.
@CiaraNi @imalcolm @johnlorimer @annika
Fully agree that we should celebrate folk for trying out Mastodon, and avoid shaming or complicating things re: "oh no you picked bad instance"
I also agree with the many issues and problems with mastodon . social
I try to do a little "actually-welcoming committee" by having # introduction + # newhere as part of my 'advanced interface / deck / homepage', that does not include instance judgement.
