@lugh_clyde It's not naked eye though, it's a photograph. Astrophotography with long exposures gives you a whole heap more colour and detail than you see unaided. Though the sky in that part of the country is pretty good, an amazing place for skygazing. Better than my small coastal city, which I understand to be itself better than most places in Europe. My own "but that's not quite right" response is calling the Remarkables the Southern Alps. I always thought of the Alps as starting at the other side of the lake. However all the marketing people tell me I am wrong@JulianOliver