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  3. Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

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  • scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS scottwilson@infosec.exchange

    @GossiTheDog Some of these in the U.S. are running super old versions of nginx, and are connected directly to a commercial grade ISP. Sheesh.

    gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #28

    @scottwilson that’s the vendor supplied version. You’ll find them in food production and such. It’s similar with Windfarms etc, they’re in 5G cell provider ranges in the US.

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

      The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

      Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

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      #29
      @GossiTheDog OMFG this is bad
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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

        The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

        Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

        bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #30

        @GossiTheDog JFC!

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          To bypass login send a POST request to /xml.cgi, there’s a write up here: https://claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controller-defrost-the-food-uncovering-vulnerabilities-in-danfoss-refrigeration-controllers

          spartan_1986@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #31

          @GossiTheDog Is this not what they meant by passwordless authentication? Have you not been entertained!?

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

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            #32

            @GossiTheDog

            The jobs not finished until you do the paper work! 😉🤷‍♂️

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            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

              @GossiTheDog I know we’ve learned that enforced password rotation is bad security practice, but this is a whole other level

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              #33

              @slothrop @GossiTheDog "We're secure! We have daily password changes!"

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Shodan search: html:danfoss product:"nginx"

                The supermarket impacted today in France put all of their devices directly internet facing and all had the same password, today’s date.

                https://beta.shodan.io/search?query=html%3Adanfoss+product%3A%22nginx%22

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                #34

                @GossiTheDog This is sad. In the 1 single minute I spent scrolling through the list of thousands....the count increased by one when I hit refresh.

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                • D davetheresurrector@mastodon.social

                  @GossiTheDog How much safer are they if they're behind a NAT router?

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                  #35

                  @davetheresurrector @GossiTheDog You can almost guarantee that vendor rules said they had to be internet facing for 'vendor support'.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                    The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                    Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                    erka@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #36

                    @GossiTheDog

                    This seems to have been fixed and sorted out already in 2025. 🤭

                    CVE-2025-41450
                    CVE-2025-41451
                    CVE-2025-41452

                    Ref. https://lnkd.in/p/da-kjBZQ

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                      #37

                      @electricbrain @GossiTheDog 🤷

                      https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/117429525184825091

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                      • erka@infosec.exchangeE erka@infosec.exchange

                        @GossiTheDog

                        This seems to have been fixed and sorted out already in 2025. 🤭

                        CVE-2025-41450
                        CVE-2025-41451
                        CVE-2025-41452

                        Ref. https://lnkd.in/p/da-kjBZQ

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                        #38

                        @Erka ‘sorted out’ 😅

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          To bypass login send a POST request to /xml.cgi, there’s a write up here: https://claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controller-defrost-the-food-uncovering-vulnerabilities-in-danfoss-refrigeration-controllers

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                          #39

                          @GossiTheDog

                          The article tells there is an algo (reverse engineered from binary accordinf to the screenshot) that depends only on the date. Not that the date is the value to enter like you suggest which is way easier. What to believe?

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

                            It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

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                            #40

                            @GossiTheDog The Zersetzung Machine Just Works Like That

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              @Erka ‘sorted out’ 😅

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                              #41

                              @GossiTheDog With extreme low valuations of ’sorted out’ it seems. 🙂

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                                lbcp@social.linux.pizzaL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #42

                                @GossiTheDog Also, it is a fridge. Set the temperature once, and never change it again. No need for cyber.

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                                • tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.netT tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.net

                                  @GossiTheDog

                                  The article tells there is an algo (reverse engineered from binary accordinf to the screenshot) that depends only on the date. Not that the date is the value to enter like you suggest which is way easier. What to believe?

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                                  #43

                                  @tuxicoman @GossiTheDog I was thinking the same

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Shodan search: html:danfoss product:"nginx"

                                    The supermarket impacted today in France put all of their devices directly internet facing and all had the same password, today’s date.

                                    https://beta.shodan.io/search?query=html%3Adanfoss+product%3A%22nginx%22

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                                    #44

                                    @GossiTheDog

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                                    • tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.netT tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.net

                                      @GossiTheDog

                                      The article tells there is an algo (reverse engineered from binary accordinf to the screenshot) that depends only on the date. Not that the date is the value to enter like you suggest which is way easier. What to believe?

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                                      #45

                                      @tuxicoman it’s a date, I’ve tested

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                        The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                        Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                                        davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #46

                                        @GossiTheDog 🤦

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          @tuxicoman it’s a date, I’ve tested

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                                          #47

                                          @GossiTheDog

                                          If the string to compare with is the not masked one from the screenshot.😱

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