Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.
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@EUCommission should have said: lgbtq+ not a disease. Next line: ban all "cures". Saying conversion therapy is not a cure one might imply that other things are. Sloppy work again
Hello @joyandsadness
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.
We also stated this in the text above the poster, but we thank you for your feedback on our visual communication. We will bear it in mind for the future. -
@AngelaScholder @EUCommission They can't enforce it, that is the weakness of the commission. Only the member states can enforce it. But the commission will write a formal recommendation to the member states to adopt such a ban. Its sad, that even that recommendation is still in the future, considering how much even just the idea behind such "therapies" (Better: Torture) violates the human rights in all EU countries.
Hello @urwumpe, @AngelaScholder!
We considered several options, and, although a Recommendation is a non-binding legal act, it is the best and most effective instrument to achieve the objective of the ECI. That’s because banning conversion practices by means of criminal law is a competence of EU countries. Some countries have already done so. We are committed to supporting EU countries who are in the process of banning conversion practices and encourage others who wish to start the process.
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Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.
We hear you.
And our reply is firm:
These interventions must end.
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.
Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.
We won’t let you down.
️@EUCommission diversity is what makes humanity strong. Monoculture is prone to diseases. Fascism wants monoculture.
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@Njord @EUCommission
This is confusing. Arent those statements synonymous?
To convert one's gender/to reassign one's gender mean the same thing to me.@PhoenixWright @Njord @EUCommission that's transition. "conversion therapy" is pseudoscience bullshit claiming to "treat" people from their homosexuality or from being transgender, while giving them a bunch of new psychological issues.
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Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.
We hear you.
And our reply is firm:
These interventions must end.
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.
Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.
We won’t let you down.
️@EUCommission As a queer person, I can get behind this message!
But again, as a queer person, you are in the process of creating an awful situation with the #ageverification laws. Teens should be able to access information about LGBTQ+ topics without even fearing that it might be logged and tied to their ID. This is one of the many reasons why IF the #EUDI wallet needs to exist at all, ZKPs and offline operation MUST be a requirement and the standard before release - safety by technical design! -
@EUCommission As a queer person, I can get behind this message!
But again, as a queer person, you are in the process of creating an awful situation with the #ageverification laws. Teens should be able to access information about LGBTQ+ topics without even fearing that it might be logged and tied to their ID. This is one of the many reasons why IF the #EUDI wallet needs to exist at all, ZKPs and offline operation MUST be a requirement and the standard before release - safety by technical design! -
Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.
We hear you.
And our reply is firm:
These interventions must end.
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.
Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.
We won’t let you down.
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Hello @nikthechampiongr!
The link shortener used here is our own. It can only shorten URLs on the europa.eu domain.
If you prefer to access this site without a shortened link, here you go: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1070@EUCommission @nikthechampiongr but is there a reason why you're using them...? Because mastodon doesn't care (max char length of a post) if it's a short or long link
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@Njord @EUCommission of course. Adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. You can smoke, you can drink - OBVIOUSLY harmful. Let's be consistent.
@Kosimus @Njord @EUCommission why would an adult willingly put themselves through that though? It's literal torture
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@DavidNorth @EUCommission practically correct - I'm not interested in a conversion therapy, and I agree it's a harmful concept. It's more about the principle. I really don't like it when a government decides what is good or bad for me.
@Kosimus @DavidNorth @EUCommission so by following that logic... We shouldn't have agencies that do checks on the food we eat.... The type of compounds we allow in food or not.....
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@Kosimus @Njord @EUCommission why would an adult willingly put themselves through that though? It's literal torture
@thibaultmol @Njord @EUCommission no idea, I'm not interested in partaking. People do things that are incredibly hard to explain all the time.
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Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.
We hear you.
And our reply is firm:
These interventions must end.
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.
Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.
We won’t let you down.
️@EUCommission I just read something else about that; it seems we're not going to ban, but we'll ask nicely ?
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@Njord @EUCommission
This is confusing. Arent those statements synonymous?
To convert one's gender/to reassign one's gender mean the same thing to me.@PhoenixWright @Njord @EUCommission transition therapy is to help someone voluntarily transition from one phase to another.
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@Kosimus @DavidNorth @EUCommission so by following that logic... We shouldn't have agencies that do checks on the food we eat.... The type of compounds we allow in food or not.....
God forbid that the government does anything....@thibaultmol @DavidNorth @EUCommission I think we should have agencies certifying food items as safe or unsafe. At the same time I really don't think an item lacking such certification should be automatically illegal. I just won't buy an unsafe item. Consequently, I don't mind info actions from the government advertising the obvious scientific fact that such conversion "therapy" is bull. It should not automatically make them illegal though.
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Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.
We hear you.
And our reply is firm:
These interventions must end.
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.
Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.
We won’t let you down.
️@EUCommission that’s how i want my government to communicate with us the people 🥰
I trust you to act accordingly.
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@DavidNorth @thibaultmol @EUCommission IMO that's crossing the line. There are countless organizations, practices, and groups you could easily refer to as coercive, and they don't end up banned (and they won't)
Agree to disagree?
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Hello @joyandsadness
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.
We also stated this in the text above the poster, but we thank you for your feedback on our visual communication. We will bear it in mind for the future.Here we go again...
️You did not stated that.
As has been pointed out here:
https://mastodon.social/@lxsameer/116567751304259850
Seriously, a RIGOROUS social network account for the #EU would revise the poster BEFORE posting it, and ask some LGTBIQ+ organizations if they see anything wrong. They would spotted the problem immediately.
To reiterate you are implying there is other types of cure, and beign LGTBIQ+ is an illness.
What it's sick is that ban this therapies has not be considered until the citizens did a public collection of firms.
How long is going to take you to consider attacks to the LGTBIQ+ citizens a HATE CRIME, punishable with the highest jail periods?.
This two should be MANDATORY for any country that wants to stay or join the EU.
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Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.
We hear you.
And our reply is firm:
These interventions must end.
Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.
Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.
We won’t let you down.
️@EUCommission Hi, thank you so much for your commitment to LGBTQIA+ rights and managing a self-hosted Mastodon account whereas your replies will try to engage in a power struggle with a community manager. I wish we didn’t confuse collective action with degrading your work conditions, and I hope we can manage to make this space more welcoming and inclusive for everyone. Death to Frontex; I wish you an excellent evening.
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@EUCommission diversity is what makes humanity strong. Monoculture is prone to diseases. Fascism wants monoculture.
@assimilateborg @EUCommission Hi, absolutely! The French philosopher Joëlle Zask wrote in 2011 “Participer. Essai sur les formes démocratiques de la participation”, which discusses individuation according to Thomas Jefferson and Alexis de Tocqueville. My eyes hurt at the moment, but it discusses our need for involvement in pluralistic associations.
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@EUCommission @nikthechampiongr but is there a reason why you're using them...? Because mastodon doesn't care (max char length of a post) if it's a short or long link
@thibaultmol @nikthechampiongr I vaguely recall this being discussed in the past.
I might have made a guess that their own link shortener allows them to know for sure where the visitors originated, if the link propagates and potentially loses some params.
Which seems like a fairly benign shortener use.In any case, kudos for the reply, @EUCommission
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