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  3. Student: “So Elon Musk is a trillionaire?”Me: “Yup.”Student: “How did he get that much money?”Me: “Well, he doesn’t really have a trillion dollars cash.

Student: “So Elon Musk is a trillionaire?”Me: “Yup.”Student: “How did he get that much money?”Me: “Well, he doesn’t really have a trillion dollars cash.

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  • kookie@toot.catK kookie@toot.cat

    @lritter @pixelschubsi @nswigger uuuuh huh?!

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    #70

    @kookie @pixelschubsi @nswigger i mean, if there were any.

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    • lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @nswigger *does* gen z hate capitalism? they're big stock buyers.

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      #71

      @lritter @nswigger I'm also buying stock, but that's mostly because I need a pension. Can't say I like the trend where valuation is entirely (and not even just remotely) decoupled from a company's output and financials.

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      • nswigger@mstdn.partyN nswigger@mstdn.party

        Student: “So Elon Musk is a trillionaire?”
        Me: “Yup.”
        Student: “How did he get that much money?”
        Me: “Well, he doesn’t really have a trillion dollars cash. He just owns a lot of stock in companies that are valued at a trillion dollars.”
        Student: “So those companies make huge profits?”
        Me: “Oh gosh no. They all lose billions of dollars a year. All of them. Huge losses.”

        The Economist headline: “Gen Z Mysteriously Hates Capitalism and No One Can Figure Out Why.”

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        #72

        @nswigger Capitalism is in that stage in which they make far more money when they let everyone believe they'll make money than doing actual money - the fun thing is that there is actually someone making money; well, not making it, just moving it...

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        • kwramm@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kwramm@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @lritter @nswigger I'm also buying stock, but that's mostly because I need a pension. Can't say I like the trend where valuation is entirely (and not even just remotely) decoupled from a company's output and financials.

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          #73

          @kwramm @nswigger fortunately that's mostly US limited

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          • woodenmachines@mastodon.socialW woodenmachines@mastodon.social

            @nswigger Not to let facts get in the way of your lols but in 6/2020 Tesla became profitable after four consecutive quarters in the black.

            Yes, Elon is an asshole and a huge disappointment but there would be no US EV industry without the pressure #tesla put on legacy manufacturers

            I know I know buses and bicycles, I use them frequently but the majority of Americans never will but are more likely to drive an #ev

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            #74

            @woodenmachines @nswigger And why will they not? Because people like Elon successfully convinces everyone that projects like Hyperloop are viable, funnelling money away from trains, buses and safe cycling projects.

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            • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

              @woodenmachines @nswigger And why will they not? Because people like Elon successfully convinces everyone that projects like Hyperloop are viable, funnelling money away from trains, buses and safe cycling projects.

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              #75

              @ahltorp @nswigger anti public transit sentiment in America goes way back, before Elon was even born. Yet another class distinction that we wrap in racism. We had loads of street car suburbs in the early 1900s, it was other industrialist that ended that, to sell us cars. #transit #streetcar #urbanism #electrifyeverything

              Edit: before Elon went full fascist, who do you think was trying to convince you EVs weren’t possible? This is all the same struggle

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              • woodenmachines@mastodon.socialW woodenmachines@mastodon.social

                @ahltorp @nswigger anti public transit sentiment in America goes way back, before Elon was even born. Yet another class distinction that we wrap in racism. We had loads of street car suburbs in the early 1900s, it was other industrialist that ended that, to sell us cars. #transit #streetcar #urbanism #electrifyeverything

                Edit: before Elon went full fascist, who do you think was trying to convince you EVs weren’t possible? This is all the same struggle

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                #76

                @woodenmachines @nswigger Yes, he's someone in a long tradition.

                And we might agree (I do at least) that every car should be an EV, but mass car culture is still mass car culture, EVs don't help one bit there.

                Noise pollution, tire pollution, huge paved areas for roads and parking, driver's desire for pedestrians and cyclists to keep out of the way, thus making threats of death and injury a required part of the culture.

                All these problems are still there with EVs.

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                • nswigger@mstdn.partyN nswigger@mstdn.party

                  Student: “So Elon Musk is a trillionaire?”
                  Me: “Yup.”
                  Student: “How did he get that much money?”
                  Me: “Well, he doesn’t really have a trillion dollars cash. He just owns a lot of stock in companies that are valued at a trillion dollars.”
                  Student: “So those companies make huge profits?”
                  Me: “Oh gosh no. They all lose billions of dollars a year. All of them. Huge losses.”

                  The Economist headline: “Gen Z Mysteriously Hates Capitalism and No One Can Figure Out Why.”

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                  #77

                  @nswigger I share your dismay at the current US economic system.

                  The thing is Elon and his dad make it worse with their toxic political ideology which they insist on shoving down everyone’s throats. If they kept their mouths shut the world be a little better.

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                  • nswigger@mstdn.partyN nswigger@mstdn.party

                    Student: “So Elon Musk is a trillionaire?”
                    Me: “Yup.”
                    Student: “How did he get that much money?”
                    Me: “Well, he doesn’t really have a trillion dollars cash. He just owns a lot of stock in companies that are valued at a trillion dollars.”
                    Student: “So those companies make huge profits?”
                    Me: “Oh gosh no. They all lose billions of dollars a year. All of them. Huge losses.”

                    The Economist headline: “Gen Z Mysteriously Hates Capitalism and No One Can Figure Out Why.”

                    t_var_s@phpc.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #78

                    @nswigger @zzt Trillionaires
                    Just some people we all decide to lend money to

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                    • nswigger@mstdn.partyN nswigger@mstdn.party

                      Student: “So Elon Musk is a trillionaire?”
                      Me: “Yup.”
                      Student: “How did he get that much money?”
                      Me: “Well, he doesn’t really have a trillion dollars cash. He just owns a lot of stock in companies that are valued at a trillion dollars.”
                      Student: “So those companies make huge profits?”
                      Me: “Oh gosh no. They all lose billions of dollars a year. All of them. Huge losses.”

                      The Economist headline: “Gen Z Mysteriously Hates Capitalism and No One Can Figure Out Why.”

                      nske@ravenation.clubN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #79

                      @nswigger "He doesn't actually *have* that wealth in cash, we just let him behave as though he does... Also GenZ needs to buck their ideas up and start living in the real world"

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