I didn't want to be break this story over here but since no one else seems to be posting about it here I am sharing a screenshot from the other side with @scan's post.

[mosttoast@bostonmusic.online]

@nullagent @liaizon @scan wait, is that Open Collective, or Open Source Collective? Are those the same?

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

@mosttoast @nullagent @scan
They are different. Open Collective is the software, Open Source Collective is the US based fiscal host of many projects in OC but not the only host. There is also Open Source Europe which is the other big fiscal host that is on OC.

[eighthave@social.librem.one]

@liaizon @scan Persona probably makes it really easy to integrate. OpenCollective needs to solve a real problem. The best approach here is to help find and integrate better systems since they seem open to other options.

[blogdiva@mastodon.social]

QUESTION:
are you asking this from representatives of an incorporated non-profit entity or from individuals who aren't incorporated?

@poohlaga @liaizon

[blogdiva@mastodon.social]

QUESTION 2

you are doing this because you won't deal directly with USA banks and instead use Paypal (a Persona and Palantir related company) as a middleman, correct?

i was shocked to see the onus OSC put on people by using Paypal ―a company notorious for robbing millions from NPOs and independent workers― instead of doing direct deposits to FDIC banks which already do all the security & identity verification.

what’s in it for OSC to force payments thru Paypal?

@poohlaga @liaizon

[saucerlost@mastodon.social]

@poohlaga
I go to a restaurant, order a sandwich. The plate comes out with a dog on the side. I'm told I don't have to eat it, and that it never touched my sandwich. I leave, because you're obviously fine with playing around with nasty in your kitchen.

Feel free to run this by the engineers.
@liaizon

[fluffykittycat@furry.engineer]

@poohlaga @liaizon why should people all of a sudden be expected to give a pedophile Nazi vampire their ID to do with as he pleases

[poohlaga@mastodon.social]

@blogdiva @liaizon People have the option to receive payment through bank account or PayPal. You are 100% right, we prefer to pay people through their bank account because it makes user verification a non-issue. It's up to the user though and some prefer to stick with PayPal.

[poohlaga@mastodon.social]

@blogdiva @liaizon Individuals

[blogdiva@mastodon.social]

@poohlaga @liaizon this is why i won't use your services and have warned people. it’s not you. it’s the Paypal-Palantir connection.

fiscal sponsors are incredibly important but not like this. FDIC banks already do a ton of security work. i do not understand why you won't do direct deposit to individuals with an FDIC bank.

i urge you to change this policy.

Palantir is behind #ICE logistics systems. both Karp and Thiel are vocal about destroying democracy.

please, don't sustain that.

[blogdiva@mastodon.social]

@poohlaga @liaizon so it’s Paypal demanding the Persona verification, not an FDIC bank, correct?

[poohlaga@mastodon.social]

@blogdiva @liaizon We do make deposits to banks. A majority of the transfers we make are with banks. We do prefer bank transfers over PayPal. I agreed with you.

[blogdiva@mastodon.social]

thank you for getting back to me on this. seems i misunderstood your policy.

last time i checked-in with y’all was probably back in 2023 or 2024. since then i was under the impression that you would only issue direct-deposit payments to groups/collectives/orgs (basically incorporated entities). that you only issued payments to individuals via Paypal.

so if i can now have direct deposits, that changes things a bit.

y’all should still drop Paypal & Persona.

@poohlaga @liaizon

[irishmasms@defcon.social]

@opencollective @OpenSourceCollective srsly , persona??!!??

Go diaf with your fascist data collection bullshit

@liaizon

[irishmasms@defcon.social]

@opencollective @liaizon not forcing onto anyone _for now_

Those that enable fascism are fascists.

[irishmasms@defcon.social]

@Li @Betree @opsocket @liaizon @alxndr not forcing onto anyone _for now_

Those that enable fascism are fascists.

[li@tech.lgbt]

@Irishmasms @Betree @opsocket @liaizon @alxndr they are forcing it onto them, the only thing their actually doing is allowing you to pick to have your info harvested by a different set of shits instead,

[processparsnip@mastodon.ie]

@liaizon

"UPDATE: they have dropped Persona!"

YESSSSSS get it.

@scan

[gina@fosstodon.org]

@liaizon @scan happy to read the update

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

@Gina @scan thanks for the message! yeah its like the tiny bit of positive news slipping thru the cracks today!