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  3. I didn't want to be break this story over here but since no one else seems to be posting about it here I am sharing a screenshot from the other side with @scan's post.

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  • kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @liaizon

    Is that red dwarf bluesky appview ?

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    #3

    @kjv https://witchsky.app

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    • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

      RE: https://social.wake.st/@liaizon/116206925371202010

      I didn't want to be break this story over here but since no one else seems to be posting about it here I am sharing a screenshot from the other side with @scan's post.

      liaizon@social.wake.stL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      Open Collective is adding KYC from Peter Thiel backed Persona. If you are not familiar with Persona: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/roblox-reddit-and-discord-users-compelled-to-use-biometric-id-system-backed-by-palantir-co-founder-peter-thiel

      Here is the github issue where its being worked on:
      https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective/issues/8609

      neptune22222@kolektiva.socialN liaizon@social.wake.stL julian@fietkau.socialJ cwebber@social.coopC lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL 8 Replies Last reply
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      • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

        Open Collective is adding KYC from Peter Thiel backed Persona. If you are not familiar with Persona: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/roblox-reddit-and-discord-users-compelled-to-use-biometric-id-system-backed-by-palantir-co-founder-peter-thiel

        Here is the github issue where its being worked on:
        https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective/issues/8609

        neptune22222@kolektiva.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @liaizon The term "Open" seems consistently aligned with capitalist interests...

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        • neptune22222@kolektiva.socialN neptune22222@kolektiva.social

          @liaizon The term "Open" seems consistently aligned with capitalist interests...

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          #6

          @neptune22222 seems increasingly so

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          • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

            Open Collective is adding KYC from Peter Thiel backed Persona. If you are not familiar with Persona: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/roblox-reddit-and-discord-users-compelled-to-use-biometric-id-system-backed-by-palantir-co-founder-peter-thiel

            Here is the github issue where its being worked on:
            https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective/issues/8609

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            #7

            This needs to be acted against NOW. If people on Discord managed to get up in arms enough to get them to chance course, we should be better prepared for then them to make them change course

            Here is an @heisec article about Discord trying to distance themselves from this company that Open Collective is now integrating into their platform:
            https://www.heise.de/en/news/After-user-protests-Discord-distances-itself-from-age-verification-partner-11188380.html

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            • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

              This needs to be acted against NOW. If people on Discord managed to get up in arms enough to get them to chance course, we should be better prepared for then them to make them change course

              Here is an @heisec article about Discord trying to distance themselves from this company that Open Collective is now integrating into their platform:
              https://www.heise.de/en/news/After-user-protests-Discord-distances-itself-from-age-verification-partner-11188380.html

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              #8

              I don't know what @opencollective and @OpenSourceCollective are thinking with this move, but this situation needs to be reconsidered. This is going to have a massive blow back when the actual users of Open Collective realize what's going on.

              brennen@federation.p1k3.comB liaizon@social.wake.stL irishmasms@defcon.socialI 3 Replies Last reply
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              • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                I don't know what @opencollective and @OpenSourceCollective are thinking with this move, but this situation needs to be reconsidered. This is going to have a massive blow back when the actual users of Open Collective realize what's going on.

                brennen@federation.p1k3.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @liaizon @opencollective @OpenSourceCollective yeah, i think i have a couple of donations going to projects this way that i'll probably be forced to reconsider.

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                • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                  I don't know what @opencollective and @OpenSourceCollective are thinking with this move, but this situation needs to be reconsidered. This is going to have a massive blow back when the actual users of Open Collective realize what's going on.

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                  #10

                  I say this as someone who has been actively using Open Collective for many years. Both as a place to donate to projects that I care about, and as a place to collect donations to various projects I have been a member of.

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                  • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                    Open Collective is adding KYC from Peter Thiel backed Persona. If you are not familiar with Persona: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/roblox-reddit-and-discord-users-compelled-to-use-biometric-id-system-backed-by-palantir-co-founder-peter-thiel

                    Here is the github issue where its being worked on:
                    https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective/issues/8609

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                    #11

                    @liaizon Hold on – Open Collective and Open Source Collective are two different institutions, right? But they are both currently integrating Persona? Am I getting this right?

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                    • julian@fietkau.socialJ julian@fietkau.social

                      @liaizon Hold on – Open Collective and Open Source Collective are two different institutions, right? But they are both currently integrating Persona? Am I getting this right?

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                      #12

                      @julian Yes. I am very very disappointed.

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                      • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                        I say this as someone who has been actively using Open Collective for many years. Both as a place to donate to projects that I care about, and as a place to collect donations to various projects I have been a member of.

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                        #13

                        Open Collective and Open Source Collective are two different entities. The Persona API is currently being added to Open Collective (https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective/issues/8609) and then being used by Open Source Collective to "Know Your Customer". This is a screenshot of the email sent to @scan's account for Margin (https://opencollective.com/margin)

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                        • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                          Open Collective and Open Source Collective are two different entities. The Persona API is currently being added to Open Collective (https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective/issues/8609) and then being used by Open Source Collective to "Know Your Customer". This is a screenshot of the email sent to @scan's account for Margin (https://opencollective.com/margin)

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                          #14

                          Open Source Collective proudly lists the following "values" on their website
                          "we respect individual privacy"
                          https://oscollective.org/about

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                          • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                            Open Source Collective proudly lists the following "values" on their website
                            "we respect individual privacy"
                            https://oscollective.org/about

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                            #15

                            They are already testing integrating Persona's API with hosted projects on Open Collective that are using Open Source Collective (the fiscal host). Maybe you haven't heard of Persona yet?

                            "All of these personal details and images can be shared with Persona’s “global network of partners,” including vendors, law enforcement, and 17 “subprocessors” that sift through personal data on Persona’s behalf."

                            https://www.inc.com/kevin-haynes/privacy-expert-reveals-the-shocking-truth-of-what-happens-to-your-personal-data-when-getting-verified-on-linkedin/91306400

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                            • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                              They are already testing integrating Persona's API with hosted projects on Open Collective that are using Open Source Collective (the fiscal host). Maybe you haven't heard of Persona yet?

                              "All of these personal details and images can be shared with Persona’s “global network of partners,” including vendors, law enforcement, and 17 “subprocessors” that sift through personal data on Persona’s behalf."

                              https://www.inc.com/kevin-haynes/privacy-expert-reveals-the-shocking-truth-of-what-happens-to-your-personal-data-when-getting-verified-on-linkedin/91306400

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                              #16

                              I wonder how @fdroidorg (https://opencollective.com/f-droid) feels about this? I have a feeling they wouldn't be too happy.

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                              • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                Open Collective is adding KYC from Peter Thiel backed Persona. If you are not familiar with Persona: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/roblox-reddit-and-discord-users-compelled-to-use-biometric-id-system-backed-by-palantir-co-founder-peter-thiel

                                Here is the github issue where its being worked on:
                                https://github.com/opencollective/opencollective/issues/8609

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                                #17

                                @liaizon oh no

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                                • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                  I wonder how @fdroidorg (https://opencollective.com/f-droid) feels about this? I have a feeling they wouldn't be too happy.

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                                  #18

                                  I have a feeling @mollyim (https://opencollective.com/mollyim) might not want to be supporting this initiative.

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                                  • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                    I have a feeling @mollyim (https://opencollective.com/mollyim) might not want to be supporting this initiative.

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                                    #19

                                    @liaizon And you know @gotosocial is not going to like it!

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      @liaizon oh no

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                                      #20

                                      @cwebber for fucks sake I really don't want to be the one to be unloading this sort of horrible news on the fediverse. I would so much rather shitpost about the protocol wars. But no one was talking about this and its so so depressing and they need to change course...

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                                      • leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.euL leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.eu

                                        @liaizon And you know @gotosocial is not going to like it!

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                                        #21

                                        @leonieke they are using Open Source Europe luckily who is a different fiscal host https://opencollective.com/europe so at least they aren't currently affected (directly) tho its still Open Collective adding the API to the underlying project.

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                                        • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                          @leonieke they are using Open Source Europe luckily who is a different fiscal host https://opencollective.com/europe so at least they aren't currently affected (directly) tho its still Open Collective adding the API to the underlying project.

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                                          #22

                                          @liaizon Ahhhh, good to know - thanks! (Slightly relieved)

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