YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission.
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As far as I know it's not a mirror, it's just YT-DLP downloading a copy. If the original changes, it isn't reflected on PeerTube.
However, the advantage of a direct upload is it never even passes through Google's systems. Usually this just means higher image quality, but if Google is going to alter uploads with AI then it would avoid that too.
@FediTips I mean, if the video is already on Youtube there might be no way (unless it happens right after the original is uploaded) to know (without watching the video copied
to PeerTube) that it was altered (I'm not talking about new uploads, or at least not videos that haven't been for a while on Youtube - doing what they want to do with the videos has to take some time, even if it is fast).
And knowing Big Tech, we all know that sooner rather than later they'll do their alterations while the video is being processed (after the upload) and before being posted (might not fool everyone, but they only need a small part, like they did with ads on videos uploaded by accounts that had no way to receive ad revenue - they did it to my "channel" years ago).
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YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission. (There are threads about this at https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet/115640694705318541 & https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/115598837629003478 etc)
This is really disturbing and dangerous. It's more insidious than censorship because viewers cannot tell a video has been altered.
If you post to YouTube, I'd strongly recommend you start ALSO posting to PeerTube, either on your own server or a public server. There's a complete guide here:
️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertube@FediTips Can someone explain how to simply watch a video on PeerTube. I've been thrashing through reams of stuff telling me what PeerTube is but nowhere is there a simple link telling me how to watch a video there.
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@FediTips Can someone explain how to simply watch a video on PeerTube. I've been thrashing through reams of stuff telling me what PeerTube is but nowhere is there a simple link telling me how to watch a video there.
There's a guide to watching PeerTube videos at https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-use-peertube-how-do-i-follow-peertube-accounts-from-mastodon
If you want to see an example of a PeerTube site have a look at https://fedi.video
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YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission. (There are threads about this at https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet/115640694705318541 & https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/115598837629003478 etc)
This is really disturbing and dangerous. It's more insidious than censorship because viewers cannot tell a video has been altered.
If you post to YouTube, I'd strongly recommend you start ALSO posting to PeerTube, either on your own server or a public server. There's a complete guide here:
️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertubep.s. If you already have a PeerTube account and want to get more visibility for your videos, here's a guide all about that: https://fedi.tips/how-to-promote-your-peertube-videos-account-and-channels
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YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission. (There are threads about this at https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet/115640694705318541 & https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/115598837629003478 etc)
This is really disturbing and dangerous. It's more insidious than censorship because viewers cannot tell a video has been altered.
If you post to YouTube, I'd strongly recommend you start ALSO posting to PeerTube, either on your own server or a public server. There's a complete guide here:
️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertube@FediTips
also is there an easy way of downloading all the content you put on youtube? -
@FediTips
also is there an easy way of downloading all the content you put on youtube?Yes, you can copy your YouTube videos over to PeerTube, there's a video about it at https://video.fedihost.co/w/tEkBeu2ST3XgTnjq4wXtx6
(By the way, I have no connection to FediHost, they just have a similar name
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YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission. (There are threads about this at https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet/115640694705318541 & https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/115598837629003478 etc)
This is really disturbing and dangerous. It's more insidious than censorship because viewers cannot tell a video has been altered.
If you post to YouTube, I'd strongly recommend you start ALSO posting to PeerTube, either on your own server or a public server. There's a complete guide here:
️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertube@FediTips
This is crazy shit that must be stopped. But how? -
@FediTips
This is crazy shit that must be stopped. But how?It's a big task as YouTube has been around for 20 years now, but we can make a start by using other platforms that cannot be bought out by Google.
YouTube was originally independent, but because it was centralised it was very easy for Google to purchase it.
PeerTube is not centralised, it's spread out on many different servers and anyone can start their own pretty easily. It would be much more difficult for anyone to buy PeerTube out.
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@FediTips I mean, if the video is already on Youtube there might be no way (unless it happens right after the original is uploaded) to know (without watching the video copied
to PeerTube) that it was altered (I'm not talking about new uploads, or at least not videos that haven't been for a while on Youtube - doing what they want to do with the videos has to take some time, even if it is fast).
And knowing Big Tech, we all know that sooner rather than later they'll do their alterations while the video is being processed (after the upload) and before being posted (might not fool everyone, but they only need a small part, like they did with ads on videos uploaded by accounts that had no way to receive ad revenue - they did it to my "channel" years ago).
@Wuzzy@jt_rebelo @FediTips @Wuzzy
Copying from YouTube to PeerTube seems risky to the point of dumb. Even if the video seems to be unaltered on YouTube, can one be sure there aren’t invisible changes? -
@jt_rebelo @FediTips @Wuzzy
Copying from YouTube to PeerTube seems risky to the point of dumb. Even if the video seems to be unaltered on YouTube, can one be sure there aren’t invisible changes?If you are willing to upload directly, that's the best option by far: you have total control over it and it's the highest possible technical quality.
However, some people who are new to the Fediverse and/or on the fence about PeerTube may find it easier to try it if there is a way of just automatically copying stuff over without having to do each video manually. Some of them may have hundreds of videos in their archive.
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YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission. (There are threads about this at https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet/115640694705318541 & https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/115598837629003478 etc)
This is really disturbing and dangerous. It's more insidious than censorship because viewers cannot tell a video has been altered.
If you post to YouTube, I'd strongly recommend you start ALSO posting to PeerTube, either on your own server or a public server. There's a complete guide here:
️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertubeEh, this has been known for quite some time now. It's just generative upscaling. Not that I support it but you are blowing this issue out of proportion. It is not ACTUAL alteration of the content.
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Eh, this has been known for quite some time now. It's just generative upscaling. Not that I support it but you are blowing this issue out of proportion. It is not ACTUAL alteration of the content.
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As far as I know it's not a mirror, it's just YT-DLP downloading a copy. If the original changes, it isn't reflected on PeerTube.
However, the advantage of a direct upload is it never even passes through Google's systems. Usually this just means higher image quality, but if Google is going to alter uploads with AI then it would avoid that too.
@FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo *IF* you can even successfully mirror it. I've been trying on a test instance and I can't get anywhere.
What does a channel do that's been around for years and has hundreds of videos? That will get expensive very quickly.
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@FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo *IF* you can even successfully mirror it. I've been trying on a test instance and I can't get anywhere.
What does a channel do that's been around for years and has hundreds of videos? That will get expensive very quickly.
You can ask @paige as his instance hosts the PeerTube for many large channels such as @shifter and @ohtheurbanity and @reece
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You can ask @paige as his instance hosts the PeerTube for many large channels such as @shifter and @ohtheurbanity and @reece
@FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo @paige @shifter @ohtheurbanity @reece I shall! Thank you for the lead.
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@FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo @paige @shifter @ohtheurbanity @reece I shall! Thank you for the lead.
He also runs a managed hosting service that makes it a lot easier for anyone to start a PeerTube instance at https://fedihost.co (no connection to my account, just a similar name!)
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Fediverse servers are run by volunteers who do not run ads and do not sell people's data. They have to pay for the data storage costs themselves, out of their own pocket.
In those circumstances it's impossible for anyone to promise unlimited uploads.
You can avoid limits by paying for the storage yourself, by setting up your own server. This is also covered in the same guide: https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertube/
Not to be grumpy, but how can serious contentcreators be expected to upload ALSO on peertube if there is no space available, unless they go through the proces of setting up their own server? They just want to create content. And I know you're thinking "oh another one, just donate". But I'm worried that like this, despite all efforts by so many hosts, mastodon nor peertube are going to make it, that basically we're all sort of wasting our time untill another big money platform takes over. Sorry
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Not to be grumpy, but how can serious contentcreators be expected to upload ALSO on peertube if there is no space available, unless they go through the proces of setting up their own server? They just want to create content. And I know you're thinking "oh another one, just donate". But I'm worried that like this, despite all efforts by so many hosts, mastodon nor peertube are going to make it, that basically we're all sort of wasting our time untill another big money platform takes over. Sorry
I don't think you are aware of just how cheap and easy it is to create a PeerTube server.
They start from $7 a month and that includes the hosting company doing all the technical stuff on your behalf:
https://fedihost.co/hosting/peertube
It's not difficult to do this at all, it's about the same skill level as setting up an email account.
You don't need big tech to do this.
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I don't think you are aware of just how cheap and easy it is to create a PeerTube server.
They start from $7 a month and that includes the hosting company doing all the technical stuff on your behalf:
https://fedihost.co/hosting/peertube
It's not difficult to do this at all, it's about the same skill level as setting up an email account.
You don't need big tech to do this.
@FediTips thanks for replying, appreciated. Ideally everyone should start their own server. But $100 yearly is a lot for many. For a sustainable federated structure, one could also try to have some big sturdy servers available, a government provided infrastructure, part of their information strategy, professionally run, with enough space, support and safety. Users not interested in having their own server, can just post and upload, while others create their own. Like public and private schools.
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@FediTips thanks for replying, appreciated. Ideally everyone should start their own server. But $100 yearly is a lot for many. For a sustainable federated structure, one could also try to have some big sturdy servers available, a government provided infrastructure, part of their information strategy, professionally run, with enough space, support and safety. Users not interested in having their own server, can just post and upload, while others create their own. Like public and private schools.
If it's serious content creators then they can probably afford 100 dollars a year.
If it's casual content creators, there are public servers where they can upload.
You're right that it would be really useful to have government-funded infrastructure, but if they're unwilling to do that then the Fediverse has to just do the best it can.
I don't think it's wasting anyone's time if people are attempting to build something better. That's how much of the internet was created
