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  3. YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission.

YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission.

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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    YouTube is now using AI to alter people's videos without permission. (There are threads about this at https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet/115640694705318541 & https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/115598837629003478 etc)

    This is really disturbing and dangerous. It's more insidious than censorship because viewers cannot tell a video has been altered.

    If you post to YouTube, I'd strongly recommend you start ALSO posting to PeerTube, either on your own server or a public server. There's a complete guide here:

    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertube

    #PeerTube #YouTube

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    @FediTips

    Eh, this has been known for quite some time now. It's just generative upscaling. Not that I support it but you are blowing this issue out of proportion. It is not ACTUAL alteration of the content.

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    • bluemermaid@beige.partyB bluemermaid@beige.party

      @FediTips

      Eh, this has been known for quite some time now. It's just generative upscaling. Not that I support it but you are blowing this issue out of proportion. It is not ACTUAL alteration of the content.

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      #22
      Dette indlæg er slettet!
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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo

        As far as I know it's not a mirror, it's just YT-DLP downloading a copy. If the original changes, it isn't reflected on PeerTube.

        However, the advantage of a direct upload is it never even passes through Google's systems. Usually this just means higher image quality, but if Google is going to alter uploads with AI then it would avoid that too.

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        #23

        @FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo *IF* you can even successfully mirror it. I've been trying on a test instance and I can't get anywhere.

        What does a channel do that's been around for years and has hundreds of videos? That will get expensive very quickly.

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        • killyourfm@layer8.spaceK killyourfm@layer8.space

          @FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo *IF* you can even successfully mirror it. I've been trying on a test instance and I can't get anywhere.

          What does a channel do that's been around for years and has hundreds of videos? That will get expensive very quickly.

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          #24

          @killyourfm @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo

          You can ask @paige as his instance hosts the PeerTube for many large channels such as @shifter and @ohtheurbanity and @reece

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            @killyourfm @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo

            You can ask @paige as his instance hosts the PeerTube for many large channels such as @shifter and @ohtheurbanity and @reece

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            #25

            @FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo @paige @shifter @ohtheurbanity @reece I shall! Thank you for the lead.

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            • killyourfm@layer8.spaceK killyourfm@layer8.space

              @FediTips @Wuzzy @jt_rebelo @paige @shifter @ohtheurbanity @reece I shall! Thank you for the lead.

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              #26

              @killyourfm

              He also runs a managed hosting service that makes it a lot easier for anyone to start a PeerTube instance at https://fedihost.co (no connection to my account, just a similar name!)

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                @whasdah

                Fediverse servers are run by volunteers who do not run ads and do not sell people's data. They have to pay for the data storage costs themselves, out of their own pocket.

                In those circumstances it's impossible for anyone to promise unlimited uploads.

                You can avoid limits by paying for the storage yourself, by setting up your own server. This is also covered in the same guide: https://fedi.tips/how-to-publish-videos-and-audio-on-peertube/

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                #27

                Not to be grumpy, but how can serious contentcreators be expected to upload ALSO on peertube if there is no space available, unless they go through the proces of setting up their own server? They just want to create content. And I know you're thinking "oh another one, just donate". But I'm worried that like this, despite all efforts by so many hosts, mastodon nor peertube are going to make it, that basically we're all sort of wasting our time untill another big money platform takes over. Sorry 😞

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                • whasdah@mastodon.socialW whasdah@mastodon.social

                  Not to be grumpy, but how can serious contentcreators be expected to upload ALSO on peertube if there is no space available, unless they go through the proces of setting up their own server? They just want to create content. And I know you're thinking "oh another one, just donate". But I'm worried that like this, despite all efforts by so many hosts, mastodon nor peertube are going to make it, that basically we're all sort of wasting our time untill another big money platform takes over. Sorry 😞

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                  #28

                  @whasdah

                  I don't think you are aware of just how cheap and easy it is to create a PeerTube server.

                  They start from $7 a month and that includes the hosting company doing all the technical stuff on your behalf:

                  https://fedihost.co/hosting/peertube

                  It's not difficult to do this at all, it's about the same skill level as setting up an email account.

                  You don't need big tech to do this.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @whasdah

                    I don't think you are aware of just how cheap and easy it is to create a PeerTube server.

                    They start from $7 a month and that includes the hosting company doing all the technical stuff on your behalf:

                    https://fedihost.co/hosting/peertube

                    It's not difficult to do this at all, it's about the same skill level as setting up an email account.

                    You don't need big tech to do this.

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                    #29

                    @FediTips thanks for replying, appreciated. Ideally everyone should start their own server. But $100 yearly is a lot for many. For a sustainable federated structure, one could also try to have some big sturdy servers available, a government provided infrastructure, part of their information strategy, professionally run, with enough space, support and safety. Users not interested in having their own server, can just post and upload, while others create their own. Like public and private schools.

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                    • whasdah@mastodon.socialW whasdah@mastodon.social

                      @FediTips thanks for replying, appreciated. Ideally everyone should start their own server. But $100 yearly is a lot for many. For a sustainable federated structure, one could also try to have some big sturdy servers available, a government provided infrastructure, part of their information strategy, professionally run, with enough space, support and safety. Users not interested in having their own server, can just post and upload, while others create their own. Like public and private schools.

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                      #30

                      @whasdah

                      If it's serious content creators then they can probably afford 100 dollars a year.

                      If it's casual content creators, there are public servers where they can upload.

                      You're right that it would be really useful to have government-funded infrastructure, but if they're unwilling to do that then the Fediverse has to just do the best it can.

                      I don't think it's wasting anyone's time if people are attempting to build something better. That's how much of the internet was created 🙂

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