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@vowe Sadly we get the same without the benefits of being in Europe any more…
@Janet_52square @vowe come back 🥺
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@nazokiyoubinbou @sonjavan62 @vowe
The siver ligning here is the codes are proof of authorisation to request a launch. Not an autmatic trigger. Even if the psycophants surrounding tump will cheer him on. Its likely the teams manning the silos will refuse to launch.@duckwhistle @sonjavan62 @vowe Kind of like how the soldiers flying the planes refused the orders to kill civilian targets?
Checks and balances are gone. They just did a whole thing where generals were required to swear an oath of fealty to Trump above all.
Trump has ordered troops illegally into cities. They didn't start violence, but they also didn't refuse the illegal orders to go in in what he hoped would result in violence. Then ICE came...
I do not trust people to refuse anymore.
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@duckwhistle @sonjavan62 @vowe Kind of like how the soldiers flying the planes refused the orders to kill civilian targets?
Checks and balances are gone. They just did a whole thing where generals were required to swear an oath of fealty to Trump above all.
Trump has ordered troops illegally into cities. They didn't start violence, but they also didn't refuse the illegal orders to go in in what he hoped would result in violence. Then ICE came...
I do not trust people to refuse anymore.
@nazokiyoubinbou @sonjavan62 @vowe
nah, militaries end up firing on civilians in prety much every conflict. The only difference is how proud/ashamed of it they are.Being the first person to launch a nuke though, that's a whole world ending level of guilt even without the target being your own country or that of an ally. I have hope that most of the people who have that job, got it back when people who looked for responsability over fanatacism were in charge.
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@nazokiyoubinbou @sonjavan62 @vowe
nah, militaries end up firing on civilians in prety much every conflict. The only difference is how proud/ashamed of it they are.Being the first person to launch a nuke though, that's a whole world ending level of guilt even without the target being your own country or that of an ally. I have hope that most of the people who have that job, got it back when people who looked for responsability over fanatacism were in charge.
@duckwhistle @sonjavan62 @vowe I can't really agree that it's that easy to just shrug off murdering civilians, but I'll put that aside. I'd love it if you were right, but what I'm seeing right now is Project 2025 working hard to fill all the positions with loyalists who will obey no matter what. Those at the top are getting even the military to swear fealty to Trump and the regime, *not* to the Constitution.
I don't think it's a good idea to assume they won't do what they're told anymore.
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@vowe also the European desire to sound like an American boomer from the 50’s in their posts
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@vowe We Americans feel your pain. For us, it starts with the morning edition of CNN and goes all day long.
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@vowe but at the same time be thankful you don't live in this shithole fascist country
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@vowe this is so true! Even on week-ends. And we, in the land of the swiss we take that weekend thing seriously. We can't go shopping for alcohol except at the gas station shops, but we still have to suffer from this "gestures vaguely".
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@vowe try being Australian. We wake up to this shit
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@vowe so true!
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@Janet_52square @vowe come back 🥺
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@Janet_52square @vowe You remain a part of Europe! Although no more part of the EU, you are always welcome!
@realSiegfried @vowe Thanks! Very cheering.
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@vowe Jawoll!
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@vowe Stupid shit right in front of our succulent meal. How dare they.
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