Hvad synes I om https://www.heynabo.com ?
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@malte @jowek @farvel-big-tech Dér har NC jo også NC Talk, som ikke bliver omtalt så meget, selv om den på mange måder er sammenligneligt med andre team chats.
Hvad angår fælles skrivning af dokumenter har jeg også kigget lidt på lukkede Wikier. De er gået lidt i glemmebogen; og så har jeg set folk lave ret omfattende interne WordPress-projekter, hvor siderne har været private som standard og krævet login.@mjj Begrænsningen med wikier og wordpress-projekter er at man ikke kan skrive i dem i realtid sammen @jowek @farvel-big-tech
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Der vil jeg foreslå delta chat + nextcloud. Det synes jeg er rimelig robust.
Og altså i og med det er open source og muligt at selfhoste, så er det et godt værn mod enshittification. Så man undgår at skulle onboarde fællesskabet på "endnu en app" hver 3. år når funktionaliteter begrænses, og tommelskruerne strammes.
Jeg synes også https://toolkitty.org ser spændende ud, men jeg har ikke prøvet det.
@jowek @mjj Er NextCloud både E2EE og krypteret mens det ligger på serveren? @farvel-big-tech
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@jowek @mjj Er NextCloud både E2EE og krypteret mens det ligger på serveren? @farvel-big-tech
@malte @mjj @farvel-big-tech
Det lader det til: https://nextcloud.com/encryption/Men jeg er ikke istand til at lave risikoanalyse og sikkerhedsvurdering.
Om ikke andet bedre end proton, der raskt væk udleverer data til statsaktører.
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@malte @mjj @farvel-big-tech
Det lader det til: https://nextcloud.com/encryption/Men jeg er ikke istand til at lave risikoanalyse og sikkerhedsvurdering.
Om ikke andet bedre end proton, der raskt væk udleverer data til statsaktører.
@jowek @malte @mjj @farvel-big-tech I don't think that Nextcloud is either e2ee or encrypted at rest
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@jowek @malte @mjj @farvel-big-tech I don't think that Nextcloud is either e2ee or encrypted at rest
@liaizon That's a huge limitation in that case. Do you mean it can't be or that it is not by default, but that you can turn it on?
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@liaizon That's a huge limitation in that case. Do you mean it can't be or that it is not by default, but that you can turn it on?
@malte @jowek @mjj @farvel-big-tech the link that @jowek posted above says "With the announcement of the Nextcloud end-to-end encryption techpreview, we’d like to invite you to scrutinize our source code and cryptographic approach in this whitepaper." So it seems likes now being worked on, tho this is listed as Nextcloud Enterprise which I haven't looked into whether that's actually avaliable in the same way or they are selling it
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Jeg bruger Delta Chat i flere fællesskaber.
Det er både til beskeder og så er der diverse indbyggede apps. Kalender, dele pads, koordineringsværktøj til gentagende opgaver, doodle, regning splitter osv. osv.
Det tager 30 sekunder at sætte op, og så er det på vej til at blive en bedre kryptering end signal. Det er decentral, kan selv hostes og kræver ingen oplysninger fra dig.
@jowek @malte @farvel-big-tech
Har nogle af jer erfaringer med at anvende Friendica til fællesskaber, grupper, foreninger etc.
Aftaler, kalender, deling af ting og sager etc.
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@jowek @malte @mjj @farvel-big-tech I don't think that Nextcloud is either e2ee or encrypted at rest
@liaizon It's my understanding that client <-> server is encrypted and serverside encryption is optional @nextcloud ?. I don't use serverside encryption, as I'm the only user of my instance.
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@jowek Lyder lovende! Tror du det er brugervenligt nok til at folk der er fuldkommen IT-uvante kan bruge det? Det er som sagt til et bofællesskab, så hele udsnittet af befolkningen er der. What's the catch? Dvs. hvad holder alle dem (som mig) der bruger matrix, signal, måske endda cryptpad osv fra at bruge delta chat i stedet? @mjj @farvel-big-tech
@malte De har efter eget udsagn arbejdet meget på såkaldt onboarding på det sidste.
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@jowek @malte @farvel-big-tech
Har nogle af jer erfaringer med at anvende Friendica til fællesskaber, grupper, foreninger etc.
Aftaler, kalender, deling af ting og sager etc.
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@liaizon It's my understanding that client <-> server is encrypted and serverside encryption is optional @nextcloud ?. I don't use serverside encryption, as I'm the only user of my instance.
@tanghus using TLS but that's this same as every website, that's not the same thing as e2ee
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@tanghus using TLS but that's this same as every website, that's not the same thing as e2ee
@liaizon According to the page on NC Enterprise encryption, there options both for E2EE and Encrypted at rest. Judging from the large organizations that use NC (Amnesty, Siemens, governments, banks for example), I would be surprised if everything was lying there in their servers unencrypted. https://nextcloud.com/encryption/
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@liaizon According to the page on NC Enterprise encryption, there options both for E2EE and Encrypted at rest. Judging from the large organizations that use NC (Amnesty, Siemens, governments, banks for example), I would be surprised if everything was lying there in their servers unencrypted. https://nextcloud.com/encryption/
@malte @tanghus @jowek @mjj @farvel-big-tech looking into this more you can see some information about how their optional encryption works if its set up here https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/stable/admin_manual/configuration_files/encryption_configuration.html
I didn't know they supported this, so thats cool, I am curious if any of the small community run instances have set this up. knowing how slow nextcloud is normally I would imagine this would potentially slow it down even more if it was enabled.
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@malte @tanghus @jowek @mjj @farvel-big-tech looking into this more you can see some information about how their optional encryption works if its set up here https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/stable/admin_manual/configuration_files/encryption_configuration.html
I didn't know they supported this, so thats cool, I am curious if any of the small community run instances have set this up. knowing how slow nextcloud is normally I would imagine this would potentially slow it down even more if it was enabled.
@liaizon Oh that's good information - speed is really important for me. I find the slowness of Cryptpad to be one of the main limitations for me. I wish decrypting every document as I am working didn't take so long. The way I work with groups is we often have many documents going that we need to go in and out of.
