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  3. European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this wou...

European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this wou...

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  • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB This user is from outside of this forum
    brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

    brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB petr90@mastodonczech.czP xbezdick@masto.aiX mnf@mastodon.socialM agowa338@chaos.socialA 8 Replies Last reply
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    • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

      European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

      brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB This user is from outside of this forum
      brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Related: EU wants to know if it should give preference to European products in public procurement. Tell them what you think (before next Monday, 26 Jan): https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/15492-EU-public-procurement-rules-revision_en

      odaeus@social.vivaldi.netO nice2meatu@mastodon.socialN njyo@mastodon.socialN 3 Replies Last reply
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      • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

        Related: EU wants to know if it should give preference to European products in public procurement. Tell them what you think (before next Monday, 26 Jan): https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/15492-EU-public-procurement-rules-revision_en

        odaeus@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
        odaeus@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @brucelawson I get no content at that link, just the header and footer 🫤

        catweazle@social.vivaldi.netC philip@social.simplexity.questP 2 Replies Last reply
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        • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

          European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

          petr90@mastodonczech.czP This user is from outside of this forum
          petr90@mastodonczech.czP This user is from outside of this forum
          petr90@mastodonczech.cz
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          #4

          @brucelawson 👍

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          • odaeus@social.vivaldi.netO odaeus@social.vivaldi.net

            @brucelawson I get no content at that link, just the header and footer 🫤

            catweazle@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
            catweazle@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @Odaeus @brucelawson, no problem here with the link

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            • odaeus@social.vivaldi.netO odaeus@social.vivaldi.net

              @brucelawson I get no content at that link, just the header and footer 🫤

              philip@social.simplexity.questP This user is from outside of this forum
              philip@social.simplexity.questP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Odaeus works for me.

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              • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

                xbezdick@masto.aiX This user is from outside of this forum
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                @brucelawson lol but we can not. unless we produce shitton of ddr5. and yes later 2027 prices will drop sharp but there is no time...

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                • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                  European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

                  mnf@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @brucelawson Classic EU move would be to pass this around for ~12 years, then give contracts to companies with an office near Brussels who deploy via GitHub.

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                  • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                    European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

                    agowa338@chaos.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @brucelawson well technically the EU would be able to but for some reason people only think about AWS, GCP, and maybe Azure when they think about "the cloud". Even if they just need basic shit that every 10 year old could deploy on a potato...

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                    • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                      European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

                      mistersmith@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @brucelawson this is the chance for us in the EU as for the US citizenry as well. To de#enshittify the Internet, we need to start building these alternatives i.e. detoxify our digital infrastructure. Cory Doctorow laid out the case for this in the 39C3. #unplugtrump

                      https://craphound.com/news/2026/01/01/the-post-american-internet-39c3-hamburg-dec-28/

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                      • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                        Related: EU wants to know if it should give preference to European products in public procurement. Tell them what you think (before next Monday, 26 Jan): https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/15492-EU-public-procurement-rules-revision_en

                        nice2meatu@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @brucelawson Added my 2 cents! Thanks for sharing. I would not have seen this otherwise even though I am registered on this "lovely, little" platform.

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                        • nice2meatu@mastodon.socialN nice2meatu@mastodon.social

                          @brucelawson Added my 2 cents! Thanks for sharing. I would not have seen this otherwise even though I am registered on this "lovely, little" platform.

                          brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB This user is from outside of this forum
                          brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @nice2meatu You're welcome, and thanks! (I only saw it a few days ago, by chance)

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                          • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                            European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

                            billysmith@social.coopB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @brucelawson

                            And the technology already exists in fully FLOSS form:

                            https://coopcloud.tech/

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                            • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                              European Union companies' annual purchases of cloud software services that benefit the US economy amount to €264 billion … If the EU were able to produce 15% of the cloud software services it currently purchases from the United States in 2035, this would result in 463,000 additional jobs in the EU. https://www.cigref.fr/technological-dependence-on-american-software-and-cloud-services-an-assessment-of-the-economic-consequences-in-europe

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                              #14

                              @brucelawson it will result in American companies firing 463,000 of their European employees who will then maybe find jobs with European companies doing similar work but for less pay because of the smaller market

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                              • brucelawson@social.vivaldi.netB brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net

                                Related: EU wants to know if it should give preference to European products in public procurement. Tell them what you think (before next Monday, 26 Jan): https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/15492-EU-public-procurement-rules-revision_en

                                njyo@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @brucelawson thanks, came across this before and each time I try to sign in, I end up in a forest of redirects and “eu login” problems.

                                If only the EU commission cared about UX and open source as much as it cares about bureaucracy protecting big business. 😞

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