The Aesthetic Rebellion
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@davidrevoy but why doesn't she just get rid of the bird and draw what she wants?
@andrewrk @davidrevoy THE BIRD IS INEVITABLE
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
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@davidrevoy no matter the medium I always love expressions where the advice is slowly incorporated into the style of the advice. I've done it with writing and it's so fun to see it with digital painting
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
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@davidrevoy True skill at work, to render a result heinous to a machine trying to scrape it and train on it to replicate it, and yet is entirely beautiful to the human eye that beholds it. The green on Cepper in the final panel produces a color and design that I find entirely fashionable, if not her preferred black. The roughness, angularity, and coloration of the later panels still works entirely well for being visually appealing and telling the story. Well done, technically and artistically.
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
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@davidrevoy I love that even your deliberately "bad" art still looks better than my current best work.
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
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@davidrevoy it's really genuinely so sad that people think your art is cocaine-generated, these are wonderful and i'm sorry people are like that
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@artsalgod I agree that crawling and training "takes it all", but I think some data are really labeled "ugly", and therefore, even if possibly generate-able back, they are often excluded because the AI company think the user wants only high quality graphics and label, something that looks pro, detailed, etc...
So, maybe there is a niche for human in the non-commercial ugly labels
I was wondering about your rationale. I hope for you it works.
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I see the spoonerism!
I thought Cepper was Pepper until I checked the alt text. Looks like a more grown-up version, now that I compare.
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@Takiro I understand, sometime I'm like
"f*** this is my style, and I like technical poses, advanced shading, and accurate volumes so I'll continue do that."
and other time I'm like
"the pressure of this AI industry at a large scale is so big it already tainted the visual culture of the audience to think my style looks like AI, so better adapt and change, and find in that an opportunity to create more and think less of the technique."
I'll keep testing,and probably bouncing between the two.
@davidrevoy @Takiro on the audio side, I've noted specific people I listen to specifically keeping a second take of a small phrase in pretty much every video where it would have been edited out before, and it feels like it's not an accident
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@sgued@pouet.chapril.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
to me this is a normal looking comic font
@lystopad @davidrevoy It is, I'm not saying it's not, or even that David should change this.
It's just that for some reason I also have had this incorrect feeling with some of the mini fantasy theaters, and I wanted to understand why because it bothers me to have a feeling I know is wrong.
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Since AI is a thing I see how aesthetics shift to a more natural and less "clean digital" look. especially in photography there is this huge retro trend where people buying old lenses. some brands like PolarPro even produce new lenses that try to reproduce the visual style of disposal cameras. Fuji successfully revived instant cameras (like Polaroid) and their digital cameras come with film simulations.
artists start use more traditional media again. Also I, who basically exclusively used the PC for drawing since I was a teenager, started to buy pens and brushes again. -
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@davidrevoy You of all people probably understand why I've looked at where things are at, and decided to get into intaglio engraving
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@davidrevoy True skill at work, to render a result heinous to a machine trying to scrape it and train on it to replicate it, and yet is entirely beautiful to the human eye that beholds it. The green on Cepper in the final panel produces a color and design that I find entirely fashionable, if not her preferred black. The roughness, angularity, and coloration of the later panels still works entirely well for being visually appealing and telling the story. Well done, technically and artistically.
@TheyOfHIShirts Thank you!
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@davidrevoy I love that even your deliberately "bad" art still looks better than my current best work.
@me Thank you; but don't compare your own art: I'm 45, and draw daily since I'm around 11 (that's around when I decided I should do that daily and dream about a career in art). And it might sounds a lot, but technically, I can still find young persons on the web between 17 and 20 y/o way ahead.
So skill in general is really variable the most important is what you express with it, and the good news: in the AI era, I believe having intermediate skill is a plus. 
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@davidrevoy it's really genuinely so sad that people think your art is cocaine-generated, these are wonderful and i'm sorry people are like that
@gemini0 cocaine-generated
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@thegarbagebird Yep, that's the most meta of the minifantasytheater episode, I think. Almost breaking the 4th wall too in this one with manipulating the reality of the strip itself.
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I see the spoonerism!
I thought Cepper was Pepper until I checked the alt text. Looks like a more grown-up version, now that I compare.@golemwire Yes, Cepper, the gothic sorceress is another character (but it's common to have feedback of her named "Pepper" as my style is what it is). Her name is a pun: Cepper & Parrot
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@lystopad @davidrevoy It is, I'm not saying it's not, or even that David should change this.
It's just that for some reason I also have had this incorrect feeling with some of the mini fantasy theaters, and I wanted to understand why because it bothers me to have a feeling I know is wrong.
I'm just kinda thinking out loud trying to figure out where it comes from. -
The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy I love little acts of rebellion like this
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Since AI is a thing I see how aesthetics shift to a more natural and less "clean digital" look. especially in photography there is this huge retro trend where people buying old lenses. some brands like PolarPro even produce new lenses that try to reproduce the visual style of disposal cameras. Fuji successfully revived instant cameras (like Polaroid) and their digital cameras come with film simulations.
artists start use more traditional media again. Also I, who basically exclusively used the PC for drawing since I was a teenager, started to buy pens and brushes again.@Drayventhal True, I saw that too, I also saw an appeal for "offline" devices; like old digital camera, where one know all photos on it will not be accidentally leaked or uploaded to a company. (a small Kodak keychain camera my 20y/o niece has, micro SDcard only, making photos like a webcam from the 2000s). Very interesting how the pressure of AI (and GAFAM + surveillance capitalism + AI corpos) are shaping a counterculture on the other side. I'm prolly late at this game.
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@davidrevoy very meta, I love it haha
