The Aesthetic Rebellion
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@Takiro I understand, sometime I'm like
"f*** this is my style, and I like technical poses, advanced shading, and accurate volumes so I'll continue do that."
and other time I'm like
"the pressure of this AI industry at a large scale is so big it already tainted the visual culture of the audience to think my style looks like AI, so better adapt and change, and find in that an opportunity to create more and think less of the technique."
I'll keep testing,and probably bouncing between the two.
@davidrevoy @Takiro on the audio side, I've noted specific people I listen to specifically keeping a second take of a small phrase in pretty much every video where it would have been edited out before, and it feels like it's not an accident
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@sgued@pouet.chapril.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
to me this is a normal looking comic font
@lystopad @davidrevoy It is, I'm not saying it's not, or even that David should change this.
It's just that for some reason I also have had this incorrect feeling with some of the mini fantasy theaters, and I wanted to understand why because it bothers me to have a feeling I know is wrong.
I'm just kinda thinking out loud trying to figure out where it comes from. -
The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Since AI is a thing I see how aesthetics shift to a more natural and less "clean digital" look. especially in photography there is this huge retro trend where people buying old lenses. some brands like PolarPro even produce new lenses that try to reproduce the visual style of disposal cameras. Fuji successfully revived instant cameras (like Polaroid) and their digital cameras come with film simulations.
artists start use more traditional media again. Also I, who basically exclusively used the PC for drawing since I was a teenager, started to buy pens and brushes again. -
The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy You of all people probably understand why I've looked at where things are at, and decided to get into intaglio engraving
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@davidrevoy True skill at work, to render a result heinous to a machine trying to scrape it and train on it to replicate it, and yet is entirely beautiful to the human eye that beholds it. The green on Cepper in the final panel produces a color and design that I find entirely fashionable, if not her preferred black. The roughness, angularity, and coloration of the later panels still works entirely well for being visually appealing and telling the story. Well done, technically and artistically.
@TheyOfHIShirts Thank you!
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@davidrevoy I love that even your deliberately "bad" art still looks better than my current best work.
@me Thank you; but don't compare your own art: I'm 45, and draw daily since I'm around 11 (that's around when I decided I should do that daily and dream about a career in art). And it might sounds a lot, but technically, I can still find young persons on the web between 17 and 20 y/o way ahead.
So skill in general is really variable the most important is what you express with it, and the good news: in the AI era, I believe having intermediate skill is a plus. 
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@davidrevoy it's really genuinely so sad that people think your art is cocaine-generated, these are wonderful and i'm sorry people are like that
@gemini0 cocaine-generated
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@thegarbagebird Yep, that's the most meta of the minifantasytheater episode, I think. Almost breaking the 4th wall too in this one with manipulating the reality of the strip itself.
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I see the spoonerism!
I thought Cepper was Pepper until I checked the alt text. Looks like a more grown-up version, now that I compare.@golemwire Yes, Cepper, the gothic sorceress is another character (but it's common to have feedback of her named "Pepper" as my style is what it is). Her name is a pun: Cepper & Parrot
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@lystopad @davidrevoy It is, I'm not saying it's not, or even that David should change this.
It's just that for some reason I also have had this incorrect feeling with some of the mini fantasy theaters, and I wanted to understand why because it bothers me to have a feeling I know is wrong.
I'm just kinda thinking out loud trying to figure out where it comes from. -
The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy I love little acts of rebellion like this
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Since AI is a thing I see how aesthetics shift to a more natural and less "clean digital" look. especially in photography there is this huge retro trend where people buying old lenses. some brands like PolarPro even produce new lenses that try to reproduce the visual style of disposal cameras. Fuji successfully revived instant cameras (like Polaroid) and their digital cameras come with film simulations.
artists start use more traditional media again. Also I, who basically exclusively used the PC for drawing since I was a teenager, started to buy pens and brushes again.@Drayventhal True, I saw that too, I also saw an appeal for "offline" devices; like old digital camera, where one know all photos on it will not be accidentally leaked or uploaded to a company. (a small Kodak keychain camera my 20y/o niece has, micro SDcard only, making photos like a webcam from the 2000s). Very interesting how the pressure of AI (and GAFAM + surveillance capitalism + AI corpos) are shaping a counterculture on the other side. I'm prolly late at this game.
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy very meta, I love it haha
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy I love how the entire frame matches the art inside the story. Brilliant
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
@davidrevoy tfw got so immersed that didn't notice the whole comic's style changing until a second look. This is so cool!
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@me Thank you; but don't compare your own art: I'm 45, and draw daily since I'm around 11 (that's around when I decided I should do that daily and dream about a career in art). And it might sounds a lot, but technically, I can still find young persons on the web between 17 and 20 y/o way ahead.
So skill in general is really variable the most important is what you express with it, and the good news: in the AI era, I believe having intermediate skill is a plus. @davidrevoy Oh, no worries. I used to draw as a kid and I've only gotten back into it recently. You were definitely an influence there.
I'm reasonable about my expectations. I know that the only way to get good at something is to suck at it first. Still, I'm happy with the progress I've made so far.
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@gemini0 cocaine-generated
ha ha!@davidrevoy force of habit, it's a mix of wafrn's option to replace "ai" with "cocaine" and a browser extension i've got that does the same *everywhere* lol -
@golemwire Yes, Cepper, the gothic sorceress is another character (but it's common to have feedback of her named "Pepper" as my style is what it is). Her name is a pun: Cepper & Parrot
@davidrevoy
Speaking of names, is Parrot a reference to the Stochastic Parrots paper? -
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The Aesthetic Rebellion
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus
I'm in love with that last frame, gorgeous
