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  • wfk@social.v.stW wfk@social.v.st

    @rauschma I had to check the definition of "native language". Conclusion: By the literal description as given by dictionary.com, German does qualify as that. However, given that it is also considered synonymous to "first language", I am not entirely sure what the actual intent of the dictionary editor was, as I would not consider it my first language...
    Generally, the use of the terms "native language" and "first language" in English seems very fuzzy and ill-considered.

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    @wfk True! I thought they were the same, but "first language" seems like an overall better/clearer term.

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    • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

      What language do you speak best? (Hypothesis: There are many French & German speakers in the Fediverse.)

      Boosts appreciated!

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      #173

      @matt @rauschma Brazilian Portuguese.

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      • ellohir@mastorol.esE ellohir@mastorol.es

        @rauschma I think you can add as many as you want?

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        #174

        @ellohir Nice! I can see that poll but I can’t create such a poll myself.

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        • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

          What language do you speak best? (Hypothesis: There are many French & German speakers in the Fediverse.)

          Boosts appreciated!

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          #175

          @rauschma Spanish here

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          • fartnuggets@jorts.horseF fartnuggets@jorts.horse

            @rauschma typescript

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            #176

            @fartnuggets Definitely a global language!

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            • isagalaev@mastodon.socialI isagalaev@mastodon.social

              @rauschma clumping *all* of the other language into one category pretty much guarantees it's going to be the largest one!

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              #177

              @rauschma still, reality is apparently proving me wrong 🙂

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              • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                It’d be very interesting to do a proper survey with a representative sample and an open set of languages!

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                #178

                @rauschma
                It can allow more options, but I believe that that has to be enabled by the instance admin.

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                • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                  @wfk True! I thought they were the same, but "first language" seems like an overall better/clearer term.

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                  #179

                  @rauschma for me, German is "second language" by a very thin margin...
                  Things get confusing when you are born in one country, grow up in another, live on a site with a third language in active use, your parents natively speak one language but have been using another on a daily basis for years.
                  It seems that many implicit assumptions of many (monolingual) native English speakers start falling apart at that point.

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                  • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                    What language do you speak best? (Hypothesis: There are many French & German speakers in the Fediverse.)

                    Boosts appreciated!

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                    #180

                    @rauschma Dutch

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                    • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                      It’s also remarkable how many people speak “Other”! 🙈

                      EDIT: I was trying to make a joke by pretending “Other” was a language. But that clearly didn’t work. 😬

                      I expected the Fediverse to have many English & German speakers and had read that it was popular in France. I wanted to check these assumptions via a survey and my instance only lets me create four options. Beyond that, I didn’t know what to expect but the replies to my initial post show just how linguistically diverse the Fediverse is!

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                      #181

                      @rauschma supposedly the most spoken by first language are 1. Mandarin Chinese 2. Spanish 3. English ... and you missed the first two.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

                      Edit: omitted the first two and included nos. 21 and 22. "Other" would get a lot more votes if poll-takers were representative of the global population.

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                      • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                        What language do you speak best? (Hypothesis: There are many French & German speakers in the Fediverse.)

                        Boosts appreciated!

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                        #182
                        @rauschma@fosstodon.org Chinese (Simplified Han Script)
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                        • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                          What language do you speak best? (Hypothesis: There are many French & German speakers in the Fediverse.)

                          Boosts appreciated!

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                          #183

                          @rauschma I speak English as well as Swedish. Currently learning Haitian Creole at the moment.

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                          • orca@nya.oneO orca@nya.one
                            @rauschma@fosstodon.org Chinese (Simplified Han Script)
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                            #184

                            @Orca 👍 简体字。普通话,对吧?

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                            • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                              What language do you speak best? (Hypothesis: There are many French & German speakers in the Fediverse.)

                              Boosts appreciated!

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                              #185

                              @rauschma
                              Pascal

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                              • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                                @Orca 👍 简体字。普通话,对吧?

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                                #186
                                @rauschma@fosstodon.org 💯
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                                • its_not_lee@mastodon.socialI its_not_lee@mastodon.social

                                  @rauschma I speak English as well as Swedish. Currently learning Haitian Creole at the moment.

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                                  #187

                                  @its_not_lee Fascinating! It contains quite a bit of French, I assume?

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                                  • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                                    What language do you speak best? (Hypothesis: There are many French & German speakers in the Fediverse.)

                                    Boosts appreciated!

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                                    #188
                                    @rauschma
                                    Dutch
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                                    • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                                      @rauschma
                                      Pascal

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                                      #189

                                      @brouhaha Such a great language! I used it a lot in the 1980s. Also, Wirth’s “Compiler construction” book is a great introduction to grammars and parsing.

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                                      • ghouston@mamot.frG ghouston@mamot.fr

                                        @rauschma supposedly the most spoken by first language are 1. Mandarin Chinese 2. Spanish 3. English ... and you missed the first two.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

                                        Edit: omitted the first two and included nos. 21 and 22. "Other" would get a lot more votes if poll-takers were representative of the global population.

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                                        #190

                                        @ghouston True! (As a silly joke, I pretended that “Other” is a language.)

                                        Everything about this poll is indeed very unscientific (the sample etc.): https://fosstodon.org/@rauschma/117430069059928752

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                                        • rauschma@fosstodon.orgR rauschma@fosstodon.org

                                          @brouhaha Such a great language! I used it a lot in the 1980s. Also, Wirth’s “Compiler construction” book is a great introduction to grammars and parsing.

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                                          #191

                                          @rauschma
                                          I really like the Algol family of languages, including Pascal, Modula 3, and Ada.
                                          These days most of my actual programming is in C++, C, and Python.

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