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  3. On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions.

On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

    (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

    Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

    nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @sundogplanets Do not engage, block them, there is no point in allowing them further access

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

      (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

      Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

      sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      sundogplanets@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #5

      On a more serious note, does anyone know how to find out who is insuring Reflect Orbital? Seems like they might want to know the company they're insuring admitted in an official FCC document that they could cause permanent eye damage to people who look at their satellite through a telescope...

      cafechatnoir@mastodon.socialC davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL rey@toot.catR http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH 19 Replies Last reply
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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

        (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

        Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

        jappel@wandering.shopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @sundogplanets Strength to your Block button. Thanks for keeping up the good fight. I’m sending messages to my electeds here in the US asking for both action against Reflect Orbital, and an investigation into the FCC about their mishandling of the comment process.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          On a more serious note, does anyone know how to find out who is insuring Reflect Orbital? Seems like they might want to know the company they're insuring admitted in an official FCC document that they could cause permanent eye damage to people who look at their satellite through a telescope...

          cafechatnoir@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @sundogplanets

          Oh, that is a REALLY good question.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

            (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

            Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

            srlevine@neuromatch.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @sundogplanets Good morning back!

            (I'm going to do math today, it's going to be very boring reagent calculations and no one wants that in their mentions lest they fall asleep)

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              On a more serious note, does anyone know how to find out who is insuring Reflect Orbital? Seems like they might want to know the company they're insuring admitted in an official FCC document that they could cause permanent eye damage to people who look at their satellite through a telescope...

              davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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              davemwilburn@infosec.exchange
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              #9

              @sundogplanets

              Please forgive the ignorant question: Are we sure that Reflect Orbital or their insurers would even be liable under current statutes and treaties?

              michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM drdrowland@fediscience.orgD randomdamage@infosec.exchangeR lynnd@cosocial.caL djstreethawk@mastodon.scotD 6 Replies Last reply
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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                On a more serious note, does anyone know how to find out who is insuring Reflect Orbital? Seems like they might want to know the company they're insuring admitted in an official FCC document that they could cause permanent eye damage to people who look at their satellite through a telescope...

                legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @sundogplanets What kind of insurance do you even carry when one of the possible (likely?) outcomes of your business include "Will make Earth's orbit inaccessible for decades" or "Will cause globally widespread ecological disaster" or "Will cause irreparable harm to Earth's ozone layer radiation shield that's necessary for life to exist on the only known habitable world in the universe."

                Because Geico ain't cutting it.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

                  (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

                  Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

                  ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @sundogplanets Oooh, more people to block, lol.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

                    (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

                    Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

                    fknhannu@zeroes.caF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @sundogplanets fuck Reflect Orbital.

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                    • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                      @sundogplanets

                      Please forgive the ignorant question: Are we sure that Reflect Orbital or their insurers would even be liable under current statutes and treaties?

                      michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @DaveMWilburn @sundogplanets

                      People can be - and have been - held liable for accidentally dazzling airplane pilots with laser pointers.

                      So there is at least some relevant precedent if Reflect Orbital should actually launch the things and randomly cause eye damage.

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                      • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                        @sundogplanets

                        Please forgive the ignorant question: Are we sure that Reflect Orbital or their insurers would even be liable under current statutes and treaties?

                        drdrowland@fediscience.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @DaveMWilburn @sundogplanets

                        We were sure that roe v wade was precedent upon precedent and they ended it anyway so I'm not sure it matters if something is illegal on the books for it to become illegal when it's first brought to trial. I'm sure a good case can be made for holding the perpetrators accountable

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

                          (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

                          Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

                          mcnado@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @sundogplanets buncha dicks with dicks being dicks, as the prophecies foretold. But seriously, why guys? Piles of reflective shit in LEO is a bad idea, regardless of the reason for it, and beaming sunlight down from orbit is absurd.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            On a more serious note, does anyone know how to find out who is insuring Reflect Orbital? Seems like they might want to know the company they're insuring admitted in an official FCC document that they could cause permanent eye damage to people who look at their satellite through a telescope...

                            rey@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @sundogplanets I've e-mailed them. Will let you know if and when they reply.

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                            • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                              @sundogplanets

                              Please forgive the ignorant question: Are we sure that Reflect Orbital or their insurers would even be liable under current statutes and treaties?

                              randomdamage@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #17

                              @DaveMWilburn @sundogplanets they've admitted to a risk that could cause material harm to people engaged in a normal activity (and suggests that it could damage expensive scientific instruments as well)

                              Regardless of explicit laws on the particular topic that might expose them to civil suits that could get expensive.

                              And that could be the case even if they hadn't admitted to it.

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                              • rey@toot.catR rey@toot.cat

                                @sundogplanets I've e-mailed them. Will let you know if and when they reply.

                                sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @rey Worth a try, thanks!

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  On first glance (pre-caffeine) it looks like there are a bunch of mansplainers doing math to defend Reflect Orbital in my mentions. FANTASTIC.

                                  (Editing to add that reading more carefully, I think most of it is actually well-intentioned discussion trying to understand how the hell RO thinks they have any kind of business case. But I am extra grumpy because it's hot. No blocking needed.)

                                  Good morning to everyone except the people defending or funding Reflect Orbital.

                                  kobold@orthographieanarchist.deK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #19

                                  @sundogplanets Please so not forget the #fediblock hashtag, so we know whom to block.

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                                  • fknhannu@zeroes.caF fknhannu@zeroes.ca

                                    @sundogplanets fuck Reflect Orbital.

                                    utf_7@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @FknHannu @sundogplanets

                                    so let's fund a giant laser that is able to disturb this thing via radiation pressure

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                                    • legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al

                                      @sundogplanets What kind of insurance do you even carry when one of the possible (likely?) outcomes of your business include "Will make Earth's orbit inaccessible for decades" or "Will cause globally widespread ecological disaster" or "Will cause irreparable harm to Earth's ozone layer radiation shield that's necessary for life to exist on the only known habitable world in the universe."

                                      Because Geico ain't cutting it.

                                      knud@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #21

                                      @Legit_Spaghetti @sundogplanets

                                      No insurance. US gov is responsible, right?

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                                      • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

                                        @Legit_Spaghetti @sundogplanets

                                        No insurance. US gov is responsible, right?

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                                        #22

                                        @knud @Legit_Spaghetti I know when AST SpaceMobile lost one of their awful giant satellites from a launch failure a few weeks ago, they said insurance would pay for it, so whatever. So these companies definitely have SOME kind of insurance.

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          @knud @Legit_Spaghetti I know when AST SpaceMobile lost one of their awful giant satellites from a launch failure a few weeks ago, they said insurance would pay for it, so whatever. So these companies definitely have SOME kind of insurance.

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                                          #23

                                          @knud @Legit_Spaghetti the US gov't is only liable for damages that happen on the ground due to reentries in other countries (according to the Space Liability Convention). Does eye damage count for that? Veeerrrryyyy interesting question...

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