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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull i keep getting the impression that nuclei is just nmap nse with extra steps

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    #102

    @Viss @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull sometimes, it can be pretty helpful. If for no other reason, the references sometimes point to an actual write-up instead of nuclei's meta-request template bullshit.

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    • iagox86@infosec.exchangeI iagox86@infosec.exchange

      @da_667 @cR0w @darthnull omg, it's the worst.

      The WORST part is that I've found that an LLM is the best way to deal with that shit.. it's way better at filtering results down to just useful PoCs (having to use AI to fight AI makes me incredibly sad though 😞 )

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      #103

      @iagox86 @da_667 @cR0w @darthnull ive found making gpt 5.4 do research for me and force it to provide sources seems to take marginally less time than slogging through websites by hand and clicking through the 200 modal popups, login with google, youve reached your free article limit, solve this capacha to see the blogpost, 10 second timer newsletter popup modal bullshits

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      • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

        @TSLST Me? I can't talk about a lot of what I'm doing on the public Internet. But I can assure you that it is not with the imaginary advantage of AI.

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        #104

        @cR0w I read this as: rather than figure out a positive use of this tool, you would rather prevent anyone from using it? What' your policy on kitchen knives and cars?

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        • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

          @cR0w I got this great idea, right?
          So you know the game darts? You throw a sharp pointy metal spike at a wall... right?

          What if... get this... instead of a tiny little bitch spike, we go full 9inches? Have kids throw them just straight in the air... see what happens.

          What'cha think?

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          sjcooke66@mastodon.social
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          #105

          @jackryder @cR0w I think that;s what's happening in Ukraine right now, but the kids aren't the ones throwing the darts!

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          • tslst@mastodon.socialT tslst@mastodon.social

            @cR0w I read this as: rather than figure out a positive use of this tool, you would rather prevent anyone from using it? What' your policy on kitchen knives and cars?

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            #106

            @TSLST Kitchen knives and cars were created for a specific benefit. AI is a grift trying hard to find a benefit beyond further enriching the rich. The fact that it's being pushed so hard while people "figure out a positive use of this tool" should be the tell.

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            • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

              "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

              "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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              #107
              Junior Dev: I gotta deliver this database app tomorrow, can you code it for me?

              Claude: Sure!

              Hacker: This shitty database thingy looks vibe coded, can you find an exploit in it?

              Claude: Find? I already know one!
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              • mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM mustardfacial@infosec.exchange

                @rootwyrm @cR0w @jackryder God dammit. This is the worst fucking timeline.

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                sjcooke66@mastodon.social
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                #108

                @Mustardfacial @rootwyrm @cR0w @jackryder The Matrix timeline anybody? Better?..

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                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                  @lycanoid I wish I could tell if you were being genuine or sarcastic, but this is the Internet so... help me out please. 😆

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                  #109

                  @cR0w of course they care about children. A good part of the world’s “elite” had (and probably still has) parties on private islands with children attending.

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                  • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                    @cR0w I got this great idea, right?
                    So you know the game darts? You throw a sharp pointy metal spike at a wall... right?

                    What if... get this... instead of a tiny little bitch spike, we go full 9inches? Have kids throw them just straight in the air... see what happens.

                    What'cha think?

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                    thegreatllama@kolektiva.social
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                    #110

                    @jackryder @cR0w
                    I will not hear lawn darts besmirched. Best game ever.

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                    • lycanoid@ieji.deL lycanoid@ieji.de

                      @cR0w of course they care about children. A good part of the world’s “elite” had (and probably still has) parties on private islands with children attending.

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                      #111

                      @lycanoid Ugh. I hate rich people so much.

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                      • thegreatllama@kolektiva.socialT thegreatllama@kolektiva.social

                        @jackryder @cR0w
                        I will not hear lawn darts besmirched. Best game ever.

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                        #112

                        @TheGreatLlama
                        Wait... wait wait.

                        Lawn darts are better than...naked charades?

                        @cR0w

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                        • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                          @TheGreatLlama
                          Wait... wait wait.

                          Lawn darts are better than...naked charades?

                          @cR0w

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                          #113

                          @jackryder @TheGreatLlama Naked lawn darts.

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                          • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                            @cR0w Well hell yeah! What else are we gonna do at the lake? Too rowdy with the bonfire and beer keg to really fish anyway!

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                            #114

                            @jackryder @cR0w
                            You've heard the expression, "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades," right? Well, have I got a great new game for you!

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                            • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                              @jackryder @TheGreatLlama Naked lawn darts.

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                              #115

                              @cR0w
                              Depending on the thrower, that could make things really tricky.

                              Like... imagine if you were playing with, or against someone with a piercing?

                              @TheGreatLlama

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                              • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                                @cR0w
                                Depending on the thrower, that could make things really tricky.

                                Like... imagine if you were playing with, or against someone with a piercing?

                                @TheGreatLlama

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                                cr0w@infosec.exchange
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                                #116

                                @jackryder @TheGreatLlama Sucks to suck.

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull i keep getting the impression that nuclei is just nmap nse with extra steps

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                                  #117

                                  @Viss @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull I shudder to think what it's like now but in the beginning people did add defanged exploits or proper detections not just grabbing the banner. But build it and they will come and now I suppose the kudos miners can times AI their bullshit. It's a shame because projectdiscovery have made some good stuff. Actually AI might be better because at least it will read the researcher's report and be able to extract the key signatures.

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                                  • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                                    @cR0w
                                    Depending on the thrower, that could make things really tricky.

                                    Like... imagine if you were playing with, or against someone with a piercing?

                                    @TheGreatLlama

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                                    #118

                                    @jackryder @cR0w @TheGreatLlama

                                    *magnetic* lawn darts

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                                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                      "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

                                      "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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                                      #119

                                      @cR0w I blame Devo...

                                      D - E - V - O

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                                      • nf3xn@mastodon.socialN nf3xn@mastodon.social

                                        @Viss @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull I shudder to think what it's like now but in the beginning people did add defanged exploits or proper detections not just grabbing the banner. But build it and they will come and now I suppose the kudos miners can times AI their bullshit. It's a shame because projectdiscovery have made some good stuff. Actually AI might be better because at least it will read the researcher's report and be able to extract the key signatures.

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                                        viss@mastodon.social
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                                        #120

                                        @nf3xn @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull the whole zerg-rush of bounty hunters invited all the riffraff. all the people who barely knew enough about computers but put mr. robot on in the background on repeat 24/7 were desperate to be leet haxors and brag to their friends that they were leet haxors. then the various scam artists wired it all up to produce scary-sounding but complete bullshit reports to knee-jerk people out of an extortion-flavored bounty, and dev has gone that direction

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          @nf3xn @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull the whole zerg-rush of bounty hunters invited all the riffraff. all the people who barely knew enough about computers but put mr. robot on in the background on repeat 24/7 were desperate to be leet haxors and brag to their friends that they were leet haxors. then the various scam artists wired it all up to produce scary-sounding but complete bullshit reports to knee-jerk people out of an extortion-flavored bounty, and dev has gone that direction

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                                          viss@mastodon.social
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                                          #121

                                          @nf3xn @da_667 @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull so it feels like scary goth spaghetti is being thrown at the wall and it its just gonna get worse

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