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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

    I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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    #5
    @mcc why am i not surprised?
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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

      I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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      #6

      What's really interesting about this is that slop model makers do not honor copyright retaliation or even *license withdrawal* clauses in normal works. For example, when Stack Overflow sold my posts to a slop vendor, violating the CC-BY-SA license Stack Overflow licenses are licensed under, I was not allowed to remove my posts from the site (and banned when I tried to take steps in that direction), although the CC-BY-SA license has a "terminate on violation" clause.

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        What's really interesting about this is that slop model makers do not honor copyright retaliation or even *license withdrawal* clauses in normal works. For example, when Stack Overflow sold my posts to a slop vendor, violating the CC-BY-SA license Stack Overflow licenses are licensed under, I was not allowed to remove my posts from the site (and banned when I tried to take steps in that direction), although the CC-BY-SA license has a "terminate on violation" clause.

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        #7

        @mcc I mean it probably doesn't matter because now that the big models have gotten to the point that making them better at one thing makes them worse on a bunch of other things everybody's going to move to task-specific distills, and those are really cheap to make. also the chinese model companies don't use OSI licenses

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        • bob@feed.hella.cheapB bob@feed.hella.cheap

          @mcc I mean it probably doesn't matter because now that the big models have gotten to the point that making them better at one thing makes them worse on a bunch of other things everybody's going to move to task-specific distills, and those are really cheap to make. also the chinese model companies don't use OSI licenses

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          #8

          @mcc if you have some example task data I think unsloth will make you a distill if you just click some buttons

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            What's really interesting about this is that slop model makers do not honor copyright retaliation or even *license withdrawal* clauses in normal works. For example, when Stack Overflow sold my posts to a slop vendor, violating the CC-BY-SA license Stack Overflow licenses are licensed under, I was not allowed to remove my posts from the site (and banned when I tried to take steps in that direction), although the CC-BY-SA license has a "terminate on violation" clause.

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            #9

            @mcc terminate on *your* violation, not on *our* training data

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            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

              RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

              I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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              #10

              @mcc I've wasted so much time and $ on that damn site. 😡

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              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                #11

                @mcc yeah. institutionalism.... mm. it is not a good way to structure things 😞

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                  I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                  #12

                  @mcc

                  'post unavailable'

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                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                    I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                    #13

                    @mcc They are became such from quite a time when they let Red Hat and their corporate mindset take over quite a lot of critical stuff in the linux ecosystem.
                    Nowday they just took off the hat.

                    Perhaps the twists was that GPL was made to keep off the corporate to control the rights on the source, with the side effect to have made the GLP itself a corporate entity. 😐

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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                      I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                      #14

                      @mcc @ireneista such a licence would need to distinguish between direct use of a model ("reviewing generated code while prompting and deciding what to accept") and indirect use ("reviewing generated code submitted to a project and deciding what to accept").

                      I suspect they won't manage to define that in a way that makes any sense, and I fully intend to assert that any such model violates my copyright, so I am no longer allowed to look at PRs generated with such a model, in true copyleft spirit.

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                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                        I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                        #15

                        @mcc Thanks for calling attention to this.

                        Holy shit, Linux is going to the wolves, isn't it?

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                          I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                          #16

                          @mcc@mastodon.social I’ve always thought of the Linux Foundation as “big corporations voting with their wallets about the future of Linux”.

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                          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                            I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                            #17

                            @mcc Jim Zemlin and Linus Torvalds got to go.

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                            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                              RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                              I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                              #18

                              @mcc @linuxfoundation never lifted a finger to protect FOSS projects from scrapping or the bots DOSing their sites. They stopped caring about FOSS while ago. These days it's just about money. They are just a sock puppet with all the hands of all the big corpos up their ... I don't trust them and I think it they should be disbanded. The foundation has outlived it's usefulness.

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                                I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                                #19

                                @mcc

                                I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

                                What do you expect, it is dominatet by us big tech companys, IBM at the forefront....

                                It is all about embrace and destroy.

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                                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                  RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                                  I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                                  #20

                                  @mcc the dark side gets bigger. I don't like it.

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                                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                                    I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                                    #21

                                    @mcc the Linux Foundation, whose platinum members include Microsoft, Oracle and Meta, could never be a force for evil.

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                                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                      RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                                      I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                                      #22

                                      @mcc
                                      The linux foundation is twelve megacorp in a trenchcoat

                                      https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members

                                      @joachim

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                                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                        RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/117095119793421876

                                        I am now willing to describe the Linux Foundation as "a force for evil in the world"

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                                        #23

                                        @mcc like in many institutions originally founded for benefit of the common, there is a need to withstand attempts to be taken over by funding members (what a difference an 'o' makes). Which requires idealist leaders, not managers educated in monetary business.

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