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Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

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  • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

    Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

    Please boost- this is an actual question

    mwenisch@mastodon.cesko.digitalM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @cryptids I did a quick fork of Phanpy (web client) that hides posts with images without alt text.

    It's on the client side:
    https://github.com/cheeaun/phanpy/compare/main...martinwenisch:phanpy:main

    I wonder if this would be an option. It'll be hard to push it to the upstream, as it's out of their scope. But if enough people would use it, I'd polish it with a settings switch and try.

    Deployment of the changes here:
    https://phanpy.muhu.digital

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    • sortius@infosec.exchangeS sortius@infosec.exchange

      @cryptids would love to know, because I'm personally done with accidentally boosting non-alt posts.

      I hate retracting a boost, but my ethics say: no alt, no boost

      nightdice@unfug.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @sortius
      I know some apps have a setting to show a warning before boosting media without alt text, but so far I'm unaware of an option to completely filter them out
      @cryptids

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      • nightdice@unfug.socialN nightdice@unfug.social

        @sortius
        I know some apps have a setting to show a warning before boosting media without alt text, but so far I'm unaware of an option to completely filter them out
        @cryptids

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        #15

        @nightdice @cryptids yeh, but... web page mostly here, like many of us

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        • sortius@infosec.exchangeS sortius@infosec.exchange

          @nightdice @cryptids yeh, but... web page mostly here, like many of us

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          #16

          @sortius
          kinda figured, just wanted to put the info out there in case. Hopefully someone knows a decent workaround at least.
          @cryptids

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          • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

            Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

            Please boost- this is an actual question

            lily@ice.floofy.cityL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #17
            @cryptids on the web app you can use ublock filters to do this
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            • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

              Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

              Please boost- this is an actual question

              js@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #18

              @cryptids A good question.

              One can choose to be forced to provide ALT. Might be a client thing.

              One small(?) thing: I’ve also noticed clients tend to offer slop-service generated ALT text. I however do prefer no ALT over confabulated slop. The null string beats the abomination.

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              • samerion@mastodon.gamedev.placeS samerion@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @cryptids Some instances, like mastodon.art, have CSS set up that puts a warning frame around media without alt text. Maybe it could be set up on your instance, or with a browser plugin? Plus, I suppose adblock for a more "nuclear" option..

                heinragas@mublog.nlH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #19

                @samerion @cryptids Yes, I have that CSS set up on my instance. Here it is:

                .media-gallery__item-thumbnail img:not([alt]), .audio-player__canvas:not([title]), .video-player video:not([title]), .media-gallery__gifv video:not([title]), .media-gallery__item-thumbnail img[alt=""], .audio-player__canvas[title=""], .video-player video[title=""], .media-gallery__gifv video[title=""] {border: 2px dashed rgba(251, 47, 47, 0.5);box-sizing: border-box;}

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                • heinragas@mublog.nlH heinragas@mublog.nl

                  @samerion @cryptids Yes, I have that CSS set up on my instance. Here it is:

                  .media-gallery__item-thumbnail img:not([alt]), .audio-player__canvas:not([title]), .video-player video:not([title]), .media-gallery__gifv video:not([title]), .media-gallery__item-thumbnail img[alt=""], .audio-player__canvas[title=""], .video-player video[title=""], .media-gallery__gifv video[title=""] {border: 2px dashed rgba(251, 47, 47, 0.5);box-sizing: border-box;}

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                  #20

                  @samerion @cryptids This only draws the red dashed border around the image. But with a bit of tweaking you could use this to hide the container of the toot itself. If you are not the instance maintainer, then you could ask them, or you would have to inject that CSS in some other way, like with a browser extension.

                  The toot will still be in the HTML, so I don't know how screen readers would process that (if that is the reason for hiding those toots).

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                  • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                    Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

                    Please boost- this is an actual question

                    jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #21

                    @cryptids I don't think so, but an alternative solution is to use a browser extension like TamperMonkey that lets you inject css and/or javascript into any site.

                    If you were to set up a basic TamperMonkey script for the site(s) in question, the following will hide every post that has an image without alt text, or no alt attribute at all.

                    ```
                    GM_addStyle('
                    article:has(img[alt=""]),
                    article:has(img:not([alt])) {
                    display: none;
                    }
                    ');
                    ```

                    See also: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/customize-website-experience-with-tampermonkey/

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                    • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                      @det Yeah I did some looking into it and all I could find was a uBlock filter for it (and an old feature request thread on Github) 😕

                      Shame, I guess I'll just resort to muting people or something

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                      #22

                      @cryptids@yip.gay @det@critter.cafe on the flipside, however, I’m trying out this new instance of catodon for a while, and I note that if one tries to post an image without bothering to fill in at least something in the alt text, it has a special leg that reaches out and boots you in the crotch.

                      [offstage whisper]

                      Oh wait, not a boot, it politely tells you to do your alt text you bastard

                      [offstage whisper again]

                      No bastard. It just tells you to do the alt text.

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                      • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                        @det Yeah I did some looking into it and all I could find was a uBlock filter for it (and an old feature request thread on Github) 😕

                        Shame, I guess I'll just resort to muting people or something

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                        #23

                        @cryptids Can you please share the filter?

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                        • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                          Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

                          Please boost- this is an actual question

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                          #24

                          @cryptids moshidon is a mobile client that can do it. unfortunately mouse doesn't know a similar thing for desktop

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                          • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                            Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

                            Please boost- this is an actual question

                            leon@social.sawpitgully.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #25
                            @cryptids I think @alice has said she has a tool for filtering out images without alt text, but I had trouble searching her posts, so the best I found was this. https://lgbtqia.space/@alice/116200750952476282
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                            • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                              Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

                              Please boost- this is an actual question

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                              #26
                              @cryptids I can't see an obvious way to do this directly on Pleroma or GotoSocial (the instance types I run) but at least with Pleroma/Akkoma I think you could write an MRF (https://docs-develop.pleroma.social/backend/configuration/mrf/) to do it (and I'll have a go later, just to see if it's possible.)

                              (Had a look in the Mastodon code but can't see anything obvious there either.)
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                              • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                                @det Yeah I did some looking into it and all I could find was a uBlock filter for it (and an old feature request thread on Github) 😕

                                Shame, I guess I'll just resort to muting people or something

                                lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #27

                                @cryptids that's what I do

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                                • leon@social.sawpitgully.netL leon@social.sawpitgully.net
                                  @cryptids I think @alice has said she has a tool for filtering out images without alt text, but I had trouble searching her posts, so the best I found was this. https://lgbtqia.space/@alice/116200750952476282
                                  alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #28

                                  @cryptids yup, I'm using Moshidon for Android, and there's an option to hide posts without alt-text, as well as warn before posting media without alt-text.

                                  @leon I have a 7-day auto-delete setting (except on bookmarked posts), which is probably why you couldn't find it 🫂

                                  Also, #NotAGirl 🩷

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    @cryptids yup, I'm using Moshidon for Android, and there's an option to hide posts without alt-text, as well as warn before posting media without alt-text.

                                    @leon I have a 7-day auto-delete setting (except on bookmarked posts), which is probably why you couldn't find it 🫂

                                    Also, #NotAGirl 🩷

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                                    #29
                                    @alice @cryptids Thanks for the details! And whoops, sorry about that.
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                                    • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                                      @det Yeah I did some looking into it and all I could find was a uBlock filter for it (and an old feature request thread on Github) 😕

                                      Shame, I guess I'll just resort to muting people or something

                                      acm_redfox@jawns.clubA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #30

                                      @cryptids I do a lot of # Alt4You replying, which sometimes helps nudge people along...

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                                      • cryptids@yip.gayC cryptids@yip.gay

                                        Is there any way on Mastodon to automatically filter out image posts with no alt text?

                                        Please boost- this is an actual question

                                        greviculteur@mamot.frG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #31

                                        @cryptids when using moshidon I don't display images by default, so I see the alt text (or lack thereof) first

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                                        • sortius@infosec.exchangeS sortius@infosec.exchange

                                          @cryptids would love to know, because I'm personally done with accidentally boosting non-alt posts.

                                          I hate retracting a boost, but my ethics say: no alt, no boost

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                                          #32

                                          @sortius

                                          Some apps ask "are you sure you want to boost". Though they don't help with the alt text that just says "photo".

                                          I'm using fedilab

                                          @cryptids

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