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  • bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB bestcryptotwits@mastodon.social

    @Daojoan the internet has changed significantly, now it the time to take it back!

    reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    reggiehere@mastodon.social
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #86

    @BestCryptoTwits @Daojoan

    Most of the old internet is still there, it's just been buried by the corporate web and largely ignored by smartfones.

    What we need is a way to convince our friends and family to ditch their corporate theft-and-nudge-ware and pick up the old open protocols.

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      RSS never tracked you.
      Email never throttled you.
      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
      The old web wasn’t perfect.
      But it was yours.

      fluxxdog@app.wafrn.netF This user is from outside of this forum
      fluxxdog@app.wafrn.netF This user is from outside of this forum
      fluxxdog@app.wafrn.net
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #87

      ♫ Welcome To The Internet
      ♫ Have a look around… ♪

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        RSS never tracked you.
        Email never throttled you.
        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
        The old web wasn’t perfect.
        But it was yours.

        derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        derickr@phpc.social
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #88

        @Daojoan May I use that quote in a talk?

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        • scottwhat@mastodon.socialS scottwhat@mastodon.social

          @Daojoan I wish the major browsers would bring back built in RSS!

          gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
          gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
          gamerposter@pol.social
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #89

          @scottwhat @Daojoan what if someone made alternative? like also newsfeeds but just in other format 🙂

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          • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

            @Daojoan Hi everyone 😊

            Please post your top-3 RSS feeds as a reply to this comment 👍

            gamerposter@pol.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            gamerposter@pol.social
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #90

            @sorenladegaard @Daojoan mostly one - wikipedia article of day 🤪

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            • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

              @Daojoan Even these got ruined nowadays. RSS feeds often don't have the full article text. Email contains tracking pixels and links. "Blogs" have texts behind paywalls and cookie warnings. We need the old web back.

              thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
              thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
              thefranke@graphics.social
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #91

              @forst @Daojoan I use two solutions for this more and more:

              1. Some readers like NetNewsWire have a builtin readability mode. They take the URL of the RSS entry, run it through reader mode and present it as if it were the RSS entry itself. Works fantastic even on feeds that only push a URL and no text at all.
              2. I coded a read-it-later service for myself that extracts entries and pushes them to a feed I subscribe to, it’s here: https://github.com/thefranke/rss-librarian

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              • jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                jamesbritt@mastodon.social
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #92

                @creatures@plush.city @_r @Daojoan

                Some sites include essentially an entire web page in the item content, and depending on your reader images and such will be fetched, including any tracking codes.

                OTOH I am unaware of rss readers handling cookies, so that stops some tracking.

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                • jamesbritt@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  jamesbritt@mastodon.social
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #93

                  @creatures@plush.city @_r @Daojoan

                  I have an otherwise great rss reader that fetches images. Mixed blessing.

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                  • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                    @forst @Daojoan I use two solutions for this more and more:

                    1. Some readers like NetNewsWire have a builtin readability mode. They take the URL of the RSS entry, run it through reader mode and present it as if it were the RSS entry itself. Works fantastic even on feeds that only push a URL and no text at all.
                    2. I coded a read-it-later service for myself that extracts entries and pushes them to a feed I subscribe to, it’s here: https://github.com/thefranke/rss-librarian

                    forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    forst@mastodon.social
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #94

                    @thefranke @Daojoan Didn't know about (1), that's brilliant, thanks!

                    I made some custom RSS exporters for myself as well for sites that don't have a feed 😆

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      RSS never tracked you.
                      Email never throttled you.
                      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                      The old web wasn’t perfect.
                      But it was yours.

                      tusooa@kazv.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
                      tusooa@kazv.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
                      tusooa@kazv.moe
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #95
                      @Daojoan rss can be injected tracking and so can emails (e.g. via a tracking image). outlook and gmail are really hostile to self-hosted email services. blogs can have ads and other anti-features.
                      at the very end, you don't really own domains and IPs; big companies rent them to you.

                      what matters is never what kind of tech you use, but rather how you use it and why.
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                      • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                        @thefranke @Daojoan Didn't know about (1), that's brilliant, thanks!

                        I made some custom RSS exporters for myself as well for sites that don't have a feed 😆

                        thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        thefranke@graphics.social
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #96

                        @forst @Daojoan On Android FeedMe does the same, you can even set it as a default for selected feeds in your subscriptions. Some of them are also quite good a circumventing paywalls

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                        • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                          @thefranke @Daojoan Didn't know about (1), that's brilliant, thanks!

                          I made some custom RSS exporters for myself as well for sites that don't have a feed 😆

                          thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          thefranke@graphics.social
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #97

                          @forst @Daojoan are those extractors custom? Or do you contribute those to RSS-Bridge or similar projects?

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                          • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                            @forst @Daojoan On Android FeedMe does the same, you can even set it as a default for selected feeds in your subscriptions. Some of them are also quite good a circumventing paywalls

                            forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            forst@mastodon.social
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #98

                            @thefranke @Daojoan I use NetNewsWire, and it also allows this per-feed, as it turned out. Immediately enabled on the offenders.

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                            • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                              @forst @Daojoan are those extractors custom? Or do you contribute those to RSS-Bridge or similar projects?

                              forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              forst@mastodon.social
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #99

                              @thefranke @Daojoan A custom Python thing, I write in what I'm familiar with. But I'm open to porting it if it can benefit more people 😆

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                RSS never tracked you.
                                Email never throttled you.
                                Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                But it was yours.

                                dave@basilisk.galleryD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dave@basilisk.galleryD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dave@basilisk.gallery
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #100

                                @Daojoan https://basilisk.gallery/@dave/114562977927631510

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                                • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                                  @thefranke @Daojoan A custom Python thing, I write in what I'm familiar with. But I'm open to porting it if it can benefit more people 😆

                                  thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  thefranke@graphics.social
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #101

                                  @forst @Daojoan Are you familiar with this project? https://rss-bridge.org

                                  Basically a PHP framework where you can easily write bridges that scrape a webpage and turn them into a feed, caching and everything else is already managed by the framework.

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                                  • thefranke@graphics.socialT thefranke@graphics.social

                                    @forst @Daojoan Are you familiar with this project? https://rss-bridge.org

                                    Basically a PHP framework where you can easily write bridges that scrape a webpage and turn them into a feed, caching and everything else is already managed by the framework.

                                    forst@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    forst@mastodon.social
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #102

                                    @thefranke @Daojoan Wasn't familiar with it until now, thank you for sharing!
                                    Don't know how interested they would be in a plugin for a very local website, but could be a fun little project 😆

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                                    • forst@mastodon.socialF forst@mastodon.social

                                      @thefranke @Daojoan Wasn't familiar with it until now, thank you for sharing!
                                      Don't know how interested they would be in a plugin for a very local website, but could be a fun little project 😆

                                      thefranke@graphics.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      thefranke@graphics.social
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #103

                                      @forst @Daojoan oh they do have lots of those, and if not its super easy to self-host as well (got a bunch for mini websites and customized bridges myself).

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                                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                        RSS never tracked you.
                                        Email never throttled you.
                                        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                        The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                        But it was yours.

                                        jjkrawczyk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        jjkrawczyk@mastodon.social
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #104

                                        @Daojoan
                                        Don’t think I ever got spam on USENET.

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          RSS never tracked you.
                                          Email never throttled you.
                                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                          But it was yours.

                                          morebento@aus.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          morebento@aus.social
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #105

                                          @Daojoan fond memories of gopher, newsgroups and irc!

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