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  • suneauken@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075

    Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.

    So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.

    suneauken@mastodon.worldS mapcar@mastodon.sdf.orgM joaquim_satolep@bolha.usJ medicineman9@mastodon.worldM axomamma@mastodon.onlineA 6 Replies Last reply
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    • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

      RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075

      Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.

      So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.

      suneauken@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Mastodon has the great advantage of having far fewer trolls than is usual on other sites. I am a prolific blocker and I spend far less time blocking hate. That alone makes it worth the effort.

      remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR suneauken@mastodon.worldS toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.seT tokeriis@helvede.netT 4 Replies Last reply
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      • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

        Mastodon has the great advantage of having far fewer trolls than is usual on other sites. I am a prolific blocker and I spend far less time blocking hate. That alone makes it worth the effort.

        remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @SuneAuken Yes. I can only speak for myself, but I think I may have blocked a total of 20 accounts since I got here 4 years ago.

        That is nothing compared to what I used to experience on Twitter.

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        • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

          Mastodon has the great advantage of having far fewer trolls than is usual on other sites. I am a prolific blocker and I spend far less time blocking hate. That alone makes it worth the effort.

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          #4

          I understand - or rather I hear - that it remains a difficult space for POC. I can't see that, but then again I wouldn't. I block racism on sight, but you know I might well be blind to some (a lot) of it still.

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          • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

            I understand - or rather I hear - that it remains a difficult space for POC. I can't see that, but then again I wouldn't. I block racism on sight, but you know I might well be blind to some (a lot) of it still.

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            #5

            Beyond that, the worst discursive practices I see here are sealioning, 'splaining, and toxic idealism.

            But you know what? Coming from the omnishambles of hatred and disinformation on Twitter - even before the Muskification of the site - it remains a much much better SoMe home for someone like me.

            I was always a cheerleader rather than a fighter. And there's so much here that's easy to cheer.

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            • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

              @SuneAuken Yes. I can only speak for myself, but I think I may have blocked a total of 20 accounts since I got here 4 years ago.

              That is nothing compared to what I used to experience on Twitter.

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              #6

              @Remittancegirl I think I've blocked approximately 500 accounts over the years (ball park). But that's low for me. In the same period I would have blocked thousands of accounts.

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              • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                Mastodon has the great advantage of having far fewer trolls than is usual on other sites. I am a prolific blocker and I spend far less time blocking hate. That alone makes it worth the effort.

                toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.seT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @SuneAuken Been here about 4 years and have blocked maybe 5 accounts.

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                • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                  Beyond that, the worst discursive practices I see here are sealioning, 'splaining, and toxic idealism.

                  But you know what? Coming from the omnishambles of hatred and disinformation on Twitter - even before the Muskification of the site - it remains a much much better SoMe home for someone like me.

                  I was always a cheerleader rather than a fighter. And there's so much here that's easy to cheer.

                  remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @SuneAuken Perhaps also, because I perceive the pace as less frantic, even when someone appears to be 'splaining', I do check their profile because for certain people, pedanticism is kind of their mode of being. hahah.

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                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                    @SuneAuken Perhaps also, because I perceive the pace as less frantic, even when someone appears to be 'splaining', I do check their profile because for certain people, pedanticism is kind of their mode of being. hahah.

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                    #9

                    @Remittancegirl

                    Agreed.

                    I am a lecturer by trade, and if people blocked 'splainers on sight, I might have an empty feed.

                    It can be very hard to know at times. So splainers get a slightly longer leash with me as well.

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                    • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                      Mastodon has the great advantage of having far fewer trolls than is usual on other sites. I am a prolific blocker and I spend far less time blocking hate. That alone makes it worth the effort.

                      tokeriis@helvede.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @SuneAuken I really never had the need to block. There is a lot of selv-restraint here, probably both due to the technical means of blocking, filtering, etc, and because relations are generally less hierarchical than Twitter, Instagram, etc, and therefore more village-like.

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                      • tokeriis@helvede.netT tokeriis@helvede.net

                        @SuneAuken I really never had the need to block. There is a lot of selv-restraint here, probably both due to the technical means of blocking, filtering, etc, and because relations are generally less hierarchical than Twitter, Instagram, etc, and therefore more village-like.

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                        #11

                        @tokeriis

                        Ah yes. I should add that I practice pre-emptive blocking. I see hate, toxic idealism or something related in other peoples' feed, and I block on sight. The trolling is rarely directed at me.

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                        • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                          RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075

                          Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.

                          So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.

                          mapcar@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am aware that this is not really the topic of your post, but I do not agree with the narrative that mastodon is hard to get started with.

                          It for sure is not quite as easy as with the centralized SoMe’s but I think it is more a question of motivation. If there is even the slightest barrier vis-a-vis what you are used to, you need to have some measure of dedication to the project, and that simply isn’t the case for the large majority.

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                          • mapcar@mastodon.sdf.orgM mapcar@mastodon.sdf.org

                            @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am aware that this is not really the topic of your post, but I do not agree with the narrative that mastodon is hard to get started with.

                            It for sure is not quite as easy as with the centralized SoMe’s but I think it is more a question of motivation. If there is even the slightest barrier vis-a-vis what you are used to, you need to have some measure of dedication to the project, and that simply isn’t the case for the large majority.

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                            #13

                            @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram

                            Yes it is slightly tangential, but it remains interesting regardless. The "entry cost" at Mastodon is a bit higher than on most centralized social media platforms, and it does hamper uptake.

                            I think the rising "cost" of being on other social media changes the comparison slightly, so I remain hopeful that Mastodon might rise to greater importance.

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                            • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                              RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075

                              Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.

                              So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.

                              joaquim_satolep@bolha.usJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @SuneAuken
                              Mastodon has some interesting magic.
                              For example: your ‘toot’ landed on my timeline.
                              I'm Brazilian and we think alike.

                              KeepOnRockin o/

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                              • joaquim_satolep@bolha.usJ joaquim_satolep@bolha.us

                                @SuneAuken
                                Mastodon has some interesting magic.
                                For example: your ‘toot’ landed on my timeline.
                                I'm Brazilian and we think alike.

                                KeepOnRockin o/

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                                #15

                                @joaquim_satolep How lovely. Thank you.

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                                • toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.seT toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.se

                                  @SuneAuken Been here about 4 years and have blocked maybe 5 accounts.

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                                  #16

                                  @toxy Lucky you. That's very nice.

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                                  • mapcar@mastodon.sdf.orgM mapcar@mastodon.sdf.org

                                    @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am aware that this is not really the topic of your post, but I do not agree with the narrative that mastodon is hard to get started with.

                                    It for sure is not quite as easy as with the centralized SoMe’s but I think it is more a question of motivation. If there is even the slightest barrier vis-a-vis what you are used to, you need to have some measure of dedication to the project, and that simply isn’t the case for the large majority.

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                                    #17

                                    @mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram As someone who never user Xitter, I found Mastodon quite easy to adopt.
                                    The problem is abandoning learned usage.
                                    Most people who complain about Linux are complaining because it isn't Windows.
                                    My first experience of computing was a Commodore Pet, followed by a Spectrum and then an Amiga. By the time I got to use Windows 3.11 in 1994, I had used several OSes, so later on, moving to Linux wasn't a shock.

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                                    • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                                      @toxy Lucky you. That's very nice.

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                                      #18

                                      @SuneAuken The benefits of having no public profile: security via obscurity. 🙂

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                                      • toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.seT toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.se

                                        @SuneAuken The benefits of having no public profile: security via obscurity. 🙂

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                                        #19

                                        @toxy This too is true.

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                                        • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                                          @joaquim_satolep How lovely. Thank you.

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                                          #20

                                          @SuneAuken
                                          The Fediverse has a high rejection rate for trolls/prejudiced/fascists and similar types.
                                          For example: this idiot >>@reverton
                                          See the block list...
                                          ~
                                          https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=zhub.link

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