Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles.
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue Fundamentally, Tesla isn’t the problem; the problem is the authorities who approved all these completely stupid procedures.
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue is it a fake? It is big.
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
- Tesla Cybercab is fun for the whole family
- Tesla Cybercab rarely breaks down or gets stuck
- Pushing Tesla Cybercab out of the road may result in electric shock
- Do not push faster than 5 mph
- Tesla Cybercab must be “caged” before interacting with it
- Not every high voltage component of Tesla Cybercab is labeled
- Contact the Tesla Support hotline before touching Tesla Cybercab
- Tesla Cybercab may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds
- If Tesla Cybercab begins to emit smoke, seek shelter and cover head
- If Tesla Cybercab exudes an unknown glowing substance, evacuate the area
- Do not taunt the Tesla Cybercab
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@adamshostack @violetblue Fundamentally, Tesla isn’t the problem; the problem is the authorities who approved all these completely stupid procedures.
@jesuislibre That's the thing: To my understanding, those authorities didn't approve them.
Elon appears to be doing the usual "ask for forgiveness instead of permission" shit, taking advantage of our regulators allowing for "self-certification" that they then attempt to poke holes in after-the-fact, rather than the agency themselves performing the certification from the beginning.
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- Tesla Cybercab is fun for the whole family
- Tesla Cybercab rarely breaks down or gets stuck
- Pushing Tesla Cybercab out of the road may result in electric shock
- Do not push faster than 5 mph
- Tesla Cybercab must be “caged” before interacting with it
- Not every high voltage component of Tesla Cybercab is labeled
- Contact the Tesla Support hotline before touching Tesla Cybercab
- Tesla Cybercab may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds
- If Tesla Cybercab begins to emit smoke, seek shelter and cover head
- If Tesla Cybercab exudes an unknown glowing substance, evacuate the area
- Do not taunt the Tesla Cybercab
@kbal
Legal in 16 states!
Only 14.95!
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue I'm looking forward to seeing footage of first responders beating the shit out of these to access people trapped inside. Firefighters especially don't give a solitary fuck about a car that needs moved or broken open.
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@jesuislibre That's the thing: To my understanding, those authorities didn't approve them.
Elon appears to be doing the usual "ask for forgiveness instead of permission" shit, taking advantage of our regulators allowing for "self-certification" that they then attempt to poke holes in after-the-fact, rather than the agency themselves performing the certification from the beginning.
You say:
Elon seems to have made a habit of “asking for forgiveness rather than permission,” taking advantage of our regulators allowing “self-certification,” which they then try to poke holes in after the fact, rather than having the agency itself handle the certification from the outset.
You were absolutely right, but as I said in my previous message, I can understand how he might get away with doing that once or twice. But the fact that he can keep doing it indefinitely is also a failure on the part of the authorities.
Unfortunately, financial blackmail sometimes means that the authorities can’t do much...
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue Cybercab => trash
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue
Ah, you mean it‘s a deathtrap! -
You say:
Elon seems to have made a habit of “asking for forgiveness rather than permission,” taking advantage of our regulators allowing “self-certification,” which they then try to poke holes in after the fact, rather than having the agency itself handle the certification from the outset.
You were absolutely right, but as I said in my previous message, I can understand how he might get away with doing that once or twice. But the fact that he can keep doing it indefinitely is also a failure on the part of the authorities.
Unfortunately, financial blackmail sometimes means that the authorities can’t do much...
@jesuislibre It wasn't quite clear in the original post that you considered "stupid procedures" to cover both the absurd "safety procedures" tesla came up with and the broken "self-certification" procedure.
And yeah, self-certification needs to go die in a fire. It can only work when all parties are acting in good faith, and several of them have shown they have negative interest in doing so, instead preferring to pull stupid stunts like this before the wheels of bureaucracy can catch up.
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You say:
Elon seems to have made a habit of “asking for forgiveness rather than permission,” taking advantage of our regulators allowing “self-certification,” which they then try to poke holes in after the fact, rather than having the agency itself handle the certification from the outset.
You were absolutely right, but as I said in my previous message, I can understand how he might get away with doing that once or twice. But the fact that he can keep doing it indefinitely is also a failure on the part of the authorities.
Unfortunately, financial blackmail sometimes means that the authorities can’t do much...
@jesuislibre @becomethewaifu I think it's important to understand that people like musk intentionally look for loopholes that are difficult for authorities to patch over, especially in ways that authorities have not foreseen.
sometimes this shit is literally "company exploited a loophole specifically because it originates from a 1920s treaty that involves four different countries of which one doesn't exist anymore and so nobody even knows who to negotiate with to get it fixed"
I'm absolutely not saying that authorities are perfect, or even that they've not been negligent here, because I do not have much love or respect for authorities in general and they fuck up all the time.
but it's dangerous to automatically conclude "the authorities must have failed" *just* because it hasn't been fixed yet, because that's *exactly* the kind of rhetoric that people like musk weaponize to justify their "ignore consequences and just do a thing" approach, framing themselves as a hero fighting the unjust authorities while actually enriching themselves -
@adamshostack @violetblue I'm looking forward to seeing footage of first responders beating the shit out of these to access people trapped inside. Firefighters especially don't give a solitary fuck about a car that needs moved or broken open.
@beecycling @adamshostack @violetblue That might be more difficult if there's high voltage somewhere unspecified in the car.
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue Wow, this seems unbelievably asinine. I was going to comment, "what dipshit municipality approved these vehicles as street legal", but then I saw Texas. So dumb.
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@adamshostack @violetblue Fundamentally, Tesla isn’t the problem; the problem is the authorities who approved all these completely stupid procedures.
@jesuislibre @adamshostack @violetblue to be fair tesla has said authorities in its pocket
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue riding in a cyber cab sounds like self endangerment
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue
Any clue on how a passenger could get out of it if this happens? -
@beecycling @adamshostack @violetblue That might be more difficult if there's high voltage somewhere unspecified in the car.
Hopefully not in the doors though?
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Tesla put its breathtakingly ugly Cybercab on Austin streets Thursday: it has no steering wheel, no pedals, and no door handles. Tesla published an emergency guide on its website telling first responders the robotaxi can be pushed to clear a lane, but warns that pushing it over 5mph risks overheating the motor and electric shock. The car must be “caged” before interacting with it. And, “not every high voltage component is labeled.” The guide also says first responders should contact the company “via the car’s communications system or phone… If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla and warns, ‘This email is not monitored for emergency requests.’” [NBC News]
Nice summary from @violetblue https://www.patreon.com/violetblue/posts/cybersecurity-8-168939634
@adamshostack @violetblue What!?
This is beyond ridicoulous.
