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  3. as much as you may want to yell at nonvegans for their complicity in bad stuff, it's not actually effective at getting people to make vegan food choices.

as much as you may want to yell at nonvegans for their complicity in bad stuff, it's not actually effective at getting people to make vegan food choices.

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  • rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lolR rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

    @pelle im on your side here and youre coming at me like im personally sending animals to the slaughterhouse and pulling the trigger with glee

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    #8

    @pelle so how about you fuck right off. stay lonely

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    • rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lolR rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

      as much as you may want to yell at nonvegans for their complicity in bad stuff, it's not actually effective at getting people to make vegan food choices. it just makes you sound like a dick

      it sucks but it's true

      what does help is kindness, sharing, inclusion, and support. understand that food decisions are so far from the center of most people's concerns right now as they just try to survive. so make food for your friends, feed them your yummy vegan dishes, let them try it without them having to actively make that call and youll surprise them with how good it is. theyll want to eat it again and will be more likely to choose vegan options in the future.

      normalize veganism as a choice of support and community, not angry elitism. make them feel safe and they will join us

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      #9

      @rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol I'm not vegan but I do like to eat vegan food. I'm doing meatless nights semi-often, and it's pretty cool. I like mushroom protein and stuff, very yummy. I think the vegans could do a lot to cater to this kind of veganism. I'm pretty callous to the militant rhetoric, because they're right, but I have nutritional needs and meat is really yummy and cheap. Veganism is, in many respects, a pretty expensive hobby.

      However, it's important to spread actual theory. People need to know WHY veganism is the future. Right now, I'm not convinced -- there's a quote that lives in my head rent free about veganism that I can't shake. "One dead deer is nothing compared to how many animals are lost when you make a farm and use pesticides."

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      • rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lolR rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

        as much as you may want to yell at nonvegans for their complicity in bad stuff, it's not actually effective at getting people to make vegan food choices. it just makes you sound like a dick

        it sucks but it's true

        what does help is kindness, sharing, inclusion, and support. understand that food decisions are so far from the center of most people's concerns right now as they just try to survive. so make food for your friends, feed them your yummy vegan dishes, let them try it without them having to actively make that call and youll surprise them with how good it is. theyll want to eat it again and will be more likely to choose vegan options in the future.

        normalize veganism as a choice of support and community, not angry elitism. make them feel safe and they will join us

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        #10
        @rachaelspooky honestly, I wish I could be vegan, or at least vegetarian. There are a few things keeping me from that rn tho, mainly my autism safe foods being non-vegan and parting with them being really difficult for me, having sensory issues with the textures of a lot of vegan staples, and living with my parents who refuse to believe that I've moved past the anti-vegan phase i had when I was 13, and who refuse to cook vegan or vegetarian regularly. When I lived on my own, I ate more vegetarian simply from meat being too expensive, and I feel like I may be able to transition to vegetarian or at least a less meat-dependant diet once i move out again, but i wish it wasn't so hard for me to be vegan, I wish my autism wasn't making it so hard for me
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        • rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lolR rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

          @pelle so how about you fuck right off. stay lonely

          november@app.wafrn.netN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @pelle@veganism.social @rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

          People who hashtag every other word don't deserve to have their opinions respected.

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          • rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lolR rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

            as much as you may want to yell at nonvegans for their complicity in bad stuff, it's not actually effective at getting people to make vegan food choices. it just makes you sound like a dick

            it sucks but it's true

            what does help is kindness, sharing, inclusion, and support. understand that food decisions are so far from the center of most people's concerns right now as they just try to survive. so make food for your friends, feed them your yummy vegan dishes, let them try it without them having to actively make that call and youll surprise them with how good it is. theyll want to eat it again and will be more likely to choose vegan options in the future.

            normalize veganism as a choice of support and community, not angry elitism. make them feel safe and they will join us

            rasp@raru.reR This user is from outside of this forum
            rasp@raru.reR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @rachaelspooky

            I vaguely remember a study where they served the same dish (I'll look it up later if I have time) with the same description and ingredients but it was ordered substantially less when labeled as vegan.

            The food was never the issue and I say this as someone who isn't vegan and has genuinely hated every vegan dish I've tried.

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            • pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              @november @rachaelspooky
              ok, so here's one of them yelling #vegans. you'd like them to pack it in, not tell oppressors about their victims, and jut share recipes instead. yes?

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              • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                @november @rachaelspooky
                ok, so here's one of them yelling #vegans. you'd like them to pack it in, not tell oppressors about their victims, and jut share recipes instead. yes?

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                #14

                @pelle@veganism.social @rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

                I'd like you to be normal and not put a hashtag on every word you use. That's Instagram behavior.

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                • november@app.wafrn.netN november@app.wafrn.net

                  @pelle@veganism.social @rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

                  I'd like you to be normal and not put a hashtag on every word you use. That's Instagram behavior.

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                  #15

                  @november @rachaelspooky
                  i've never been on #instagram so i have no clue what people do there.

                  i didn't know #hashtags are discouraged on #mastodon. #feditips seem to encourage use of them.
                  https://fedi.tips/what-are-hashtags-how-do-i-use-them-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

                  what's the argument against using them?

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                  • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                    @november @rachaelspooky
                    i've never been on #instagram so i have no clue what people do there.

                    i didn't know #hashtags are discouraged on #mastodon. #feditips seem to encourage use of them.
                    https://fedi.tips/what-are-hashtags-how-do-i-use-them-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

                    what's the argument against using them?

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                    #16

                    @pelle@veganism.social @rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

                    Do you actually think that toot is relevant to people browsing/following the Mastodon hashtag? That's what tags are for. They're supposed to mark your post as being about that topic.

                    Because people can follow tags and have tagged posts show up on their dashboard, overuse of tags is akin to spam.

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                    • november@app.wafrn.netN november@app.wafrn.net

                      @pelle@veganism.social @rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol

                      Do you actually think that toot is relevant to people browsing/following the Mastodon hashtag? That's what tags are for. They're supposed to mark your post as being about that topic.

                      Because people can follow tags and have tagged posts show up on their dashboard, overuse of tags is akin to spam.

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                      #17

                      @november @rachaelspooky
                      > They're supposed to mark your post as being about that topic.

                      was my post not about using hashtags on mastodon?

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                      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                        @november @rachaelspooky
                        > They're supposed to mark your post as being about that topic.

                        was my post not about using hashtags on mastodon?

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                        #18

                        @rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol @pelle@veganism.social

                        Your post was not relevant to people following the mastodon hashtag.

                        Your first post in this thread, where you burst in to scold a mentally ill trans woman for not alienating all of her carnist friends and family, used tags for:

                        • diet (even though veganism isn't a diet)
                        • FreePalestine and IDF
                        • yoghurt
                        • breastmilk
                        • gas chambers
                        • And you hashtagged both vegan and vegans multiple times, which has no effect on the propagation of the tags but aesthetically makes you look like a clueless Boomer
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