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  3. ⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

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  • moanos@gay-pirate-assassins.deM moanos@gay-pirate-assassins.de

    @FediTips @oli @FediGarden Mine can be considered public in the sense that you can sign up and your registration will be approved or rejected

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    #82

    @moanos @oli

    Yeah, that's what I'd call public! In fact it's arguably better if it's approval-based because it shows proper moderation is going on.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      ⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

      Mastodon.cloud no longer seems to be moderated. Its admin account hasn't posted since Feb 2023, its code of conduct is blank and there are vile racists posting from there. The racists have been reported many times but their accounts are still active.

      Because of this, other server admins are starting to block mastodon.cloud completely.

      If you're on mastodon.cloud you might want to move to another server ASAP: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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      #83

      @FediTips oh no! I'm on cloud!

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        @oli @FediGarden

        Ah, yeah, I'm not doing any kind of FediDB-style automated list. Fedi.Garden is just a small manually curated list of good instances that people can join. I don't have any stats, it's just public instances where I've contacted the admin and discussed their safeguards for reliability and moderation, then got their consent to be listed.

        GTS doesn't seem to have any public instances at all though?

        I'm partly worried about what happens if Mastodon software goes south. Hard fork?

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        #84

        @FediTips @FediGarden I mean, here's goblin.technology, run by Tobi who basically started GoToSocial.

        https://goblin.technology/

        It allows signups. So I'm not sure if that's public or not.

        ALL GoToSocial instances require manual review for signups however.

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        • oli@olifant.socialO oli@olifant.social

          @FediTips @FediGarden I mean, here's goblin.technology, run by Tobi who basically started GoToSocial.

          https://goblin.technology/

          It allows signups. So I'm not sure if that's public or not.

          ALL GoToSocial instances require manual review for signups however.

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          Dette indlæg er slettet!
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          • oli@olifant.socialO oli@olifant.social

            @FediTips @FediGarden I mean, here's goblin.technology, run by Tobi who basically started GoToSocial.

            https://goblin.technology/

            It allows signups. So I'm not sure if that's public or not.

            ALL GoToSocial instances require manual review for signups however.

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            #86

            @oli

            Ooh thank you, I will contact Tobi!

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            • katherine_montalto@mastodon.cloudK katherine_montalto@mastodon.cloud

              @FediTips oh no! I'm on cloud!

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              #87

              @katherine_montalto

              It's okay, you can move your account to another server and keep your followers, follows, bookmarks, lists, mutes and blocks. Also, your old posts will redirect people to your new account if you do the transfer process.

              There's a step by step non-technical guide here which also advises on how to find a new server: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

              Let me know if you want help with any part of the transfer!

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                @katherine_montalto

                It's okay, you can move your account to another server and keep your followers, follows, bookmarks, lists, mutes and blocks. Also, your old posts will redirect people to your new account if you do the transfer process.

                There's a step by step non-technical guide here which also advises on how to find a new server: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                Let me know if you want help with any part of the transfer!

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                #88

                @FediTips I'm going to look into doing this over the weekend maybe when I have some time. I guess it's probably a good time since cloud doesn't update that often. I just never know where to jump to. it feels like instances are always dying or running out of money or getting into fights. I hate the idea of jumping ship all the time

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                • katherine_montalto@mastodon.cloudK katherine_montalto@mastodon.cloud

                  @FediTips I'm going to look into doing this over the weekend maybe when I have some time. I guess it's probably a good time since cloud doesn't update that often. I just never know where to jump to. it feels like instances are always dying or running out of money or getting into fights. I hate the idea of jumping ship all the time

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                  #89

                  @katherine_montalto

                  That's why I set up https://fedi.garden to try to highlight the servers that have been around a long time and are well-run. Some of the servers listed have been around since 2017, and all of them have active moderation and promise three months warning if they ever shut down.

                  Mastodon has a similar official server list at https://joinmastodon.org/servers which also requires servers to have active moderation and promise three months warning if they ever decide to shut down.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @janggolan

                    "Why can't individual accounts just block each other as they have on other services?"

                    Here is why, explained in one short post: https://social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/112581263140051643

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                    #90

                    @FediTips @janggolan I just realized you were part of the threads.net defederation pile-on too. I actually followed you early in the Twitter migration, but haven’t kept up with all your posts. This block-happy, big-brother, demonizing approach seems infantilizing—which you've shown contempt for. It strips users of their own choices. People will just move on to other services; the only thing it hinders is ActivityPub’s growth. Maybe that’s the point.

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                    • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

                      @FediTips @janggolan I just realized you were part of the threads.net defederation pile-on too. I actually followed you early in the Twitter migration, but haven’t kept up with all your posts. This block-happy, big-brother, demonizing approach seems infantilizing—which you've shown contempt for. It strips users of their own choices. People will just move on to other services; the only thing it hinders is ActivityPub’s growth. Maybe that’s the point.

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                      #91

                      @quattrocchi

                      Maybe you would like to read this thread about a black grandfather living in terror and being threatened in the street because of poor moderation:

                      https://social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/115061048964841034

                      Or maybe you would like to see this article about a massacre due to poor moderation:

                      https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-02-20/facebook-accused-of-letting-activists-incite-ethnic-massacres-with-hate-and-misinformation-by-survivors-in-ethiopia/

                      Or a genocide exacerbated by poor moderation:

                      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence

                      Unmoderated social networks put innocent people in danger and get them killed. Even people who aren't online are in danger.

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