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  3. The VCs are now talking up the number-go-up of AI "tokens".

The VCs are now talking up the number-go-up of AI "tokens".

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    The VCs are now talking up the number-go-up of AI "tokens". They make graphs of this shit. Big number! We processed 50x the tokens!

    I know what a token is. But the fuck does this mean in sensible? Anyone know?

    (it sounds like counting search engines in stems or s/t. ridiculous.)

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      The VCs are now talking up the number-go-up of AI "tokens". They make graphs of this shit. Big number! We processed 50x the tokens!

      I know what a token is. But the fuck does this mean in sensible? Anyone know?

      (it sounds like counting search engines in stems or s/t. ridiculous.)

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      @davidgerard Token counts are part of pricing structures, at least for the ones I have reviewed. https://openai.com/api/pricing/

      Are VCs using "activity" a proxy to revenue to avoid having to talk about how different revenue is compared to profit for AI platforms?

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        @davidgerard Token counts are part of pricing structures, at least for the ones I have reviewed. https://openai.com/api/pricing/

        Are VCs using "activity" a proxy to revenue to avoid having to talk about how different revenue is compared to profit for AI platforms?

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        @merospit it's the most pseudo measurement I've seen in a while

        like Goodhart except they went straight to starting with a bad measure

        I suppose i would have to find who first put this forward as a number

        then explaining why it's just stupid

        aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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          @merospit it's the most pseudo measurement I've seen in a while

          like Goodhart except they went straight to starting with a bad measure

          I suppose i would have to find who first put this forward as a number

          then explaining why it's just stupid

          aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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          @merospit they're literally bragging total tokens. e.g.

          "We processed over 100 trillion tokens this quarter, up 5X year-over-year – including a record 50 trillion tokens last month alone." - Satya Nadella, MSFT earnings call.

          like. the *fuck* is this a sensible measure of

          for what purpose is this supposed to be commensurable

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