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Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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  • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

    Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

    ulrikehahn@fediscience.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @Ruth_Mottram @everton137 the only bit I’d take issue with in the article is the comment about the brokenness of search - I think that’s actually functionally connected to what has made the fediverse what it is (I’m aware that’s a controversial position)

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    • ulrikehahn@fediscience.orgU ulrikehahn@fediscience.org

      @Ruth_Mottram @everton137 the only bit I’d take issue with in the article is the comment about the brokenness of search - I think that’s actually functionally connected to what has made the fediverse what it is (I’m aware that’s a controversial position)

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      #5

      @UlrikeHahn I'm going to read it, but I see an issue with the title.

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      • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

        @Ruth_Mottram I've got goosebumps at the end.👏

        (Don't get the picture of the building though, is there a caption for it that I might be missing?)

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        #6

        @jill The building is the official residence of the Danish prime minister. Most prime ministers live in their normal homes though, but it is used for official meetings.

        https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marienborg

        @Ruth_Mottram

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        • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

          Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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          #7

          @Ruth_Mottram .
          > Now you can be wildly sickeningly successful with morals but you cannot reach that absolute zenith of shareholder value. Either you accept a lower share price and don’t commit atrocities or you become evil. There is no third option.

          I need an emoji with a much wider grin

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          • drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD drgroftehauge@sigmoid.social

            @Ruth_Mottram .
            > Now you can be wildly sickeningly successful with morals but you cannot reach that absolute zenith of shareholder value. Either you accept a lower share price and don’t commit atrocities or you become evil. There is no third option.

            I need an emoji with a much wider grin

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            #8

            @drgroftehauge @Ruth_Mottram

            > To thrive in capitalism one must be amoral.

            That! Sums up exactly the mess we're in.

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            • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

              Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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              #9

              @Ruth_Mottram thanks for sharing. It made me think of Steve Bannon's saying "the real opposition is the media, and the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit".

              I don't know if the fediverse is entirely shit-flood resistant, but fingers crossed it is better designed for that battle that other media.

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              • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                #10

                @Ruth_Mottram i would like to follow mat in here. Anyone know how?

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                • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                  Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                  #11

                  @Ruth_Mottram Great piece. Thanks for sharing it.

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                  • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                    Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                    #12

                    @Ruth_Mottram what a fantastic post, wow!!! I got goosebumps at the end... and I was so happy to see my Fedi photo in use ❤️​

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                    • miturian@mastodon.socialM miturian@mastodon.social

                      @Ruth_Mottram i would like to follow mat in here. Anyone know how?

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                      #13

                      @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

                      Me too does anyone know his mastodon name?

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                      • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                        Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                        #14

                        @Ruth_Mottram

                        I'm so glad someone put this into words:

                        "Bluesky had a bunch of “stuff” but they’re trying to capture that 2008 Twitter lightning in a bottle which is a giant waste of time. We’re never going to go back to pretending that tweeting at politicians does anything and everyone there is desperately trying to build a “brand” as the funny one or whatever. I want news I don’t want your endless meta commentary on the news."

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                        • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

                          @Ruth_Mottram

                          I'm so glad someone put this into words:

                          "Bluesky had a bunch of “stuff” but they’re trying to capture that 2008 Twitter lightning in a bottle which is a giant waste of time. We’re never going to go back to pretending that tweeting at politicians does anything and everyone there is desperately trying to build a “brand” as the funny one or whatever. I want news I don’t want your endless meta commentary on the news."

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                          #15

                          @Ruth_Mottram

                          The description of Threads got a good chuckle:

                          "Threads was worthless because it’s the most boring social media website ever imagined. It’s a social media network designed by brands for brands, like if someone made a cable channel that was just advertisements and meta commentary about the advertisements you just saw. Billions of dollars at their disposal and Meta made a hot new social media network with the appeal of junk mail."

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                          • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

                            @Ruth_Mottram

                            The description of Threads got a good chuckle:

                            "Threads was worthless because it’s the most boring social media website ever imagined. It’s a social media network designed by brands for brands, like if someone made a cable channel that was just advertisements and meta commentary about the advertisements you just saw. Billions of dollars at their disposal and Meta made a hot new social media network with the appeal of junk mail."

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                            #16

                            @Ruth_Mottram

                            The #fediverse, and hence Mastodon, as the real deal:

                            "Actual human beings were able to find each other and ask direct questions without this giant mountain of bullshit engagement piled on top of it."

                            I'm all for it.

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                            • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

                              @Ruth_Mottram

                              The #fediverse, and hence Mastodon, as the real deal:

                              "Actual human beings were able to find each other and ask direct questions without this giant mountain of bullshit engagement piled on top of it."

                              I'm all for it.

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                              #17

                              @Ruth_Mottram

                              On the #fediverse :

                              "I never expected to find my news from strangers on a federated social network that half the internet has never heard of. I never expected a lot of things. But there's something quietly beautiful about a place where people just... share what they know. No brand deals, no engagement metrics, no algorithm nudging you toward rage. Just someone who spent twenty years studying Arctic policy posting a thread at 2 AM because they think you should understand what's happening. It's the internet I was promised in 1996. It only took thirty years and the complete collapse of American journalism to get here."

                              I did, because I was part of that early internet. So glad it's back, and made by us, again, and not corporations.

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                              • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                                Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                                #18

                                @Ruth_Mottram
                                'I prefer my narcissism farm to table' 😆

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                                • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                                  Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                                  #19

                                  @Ruth_Mottram source looks like: https://c.im/@matdevdug/116183052079063047

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                                  • primozr@social.vivaldi.netP primozr@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @drgroftehauge @Ruth_Mottram

                                    > To thrive in capitalism one must be amoral.

                                    That! Sums up exactly the mess we're in.

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                                    #20

                                    @PrimozR @Ruth_Mottram Mat is also right about search. I can't find them on Mastodon.

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                                    • drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD drgroftehauge@sigmoid.social

                                      @PrimozR @Ruth_Mottram Mat is also right about search. I can't find them on Mastodon.

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                                      #21

                                      @drgroftehauge @PrimozR yes same!

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                                        #22

                                        @overby.me It is only just now that we are getting black sky and euro sky has followed. No one was successful in creating a new instance before that. And black sky got a bunch of help from blue sky because there was too much not documented about how it worked 🤷

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                                        • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                                          @drgroftehauge @PrimozR yes same!

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                                          #23

                                          @Ruth_Mottram @PrimozR It's @matdevdug

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