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  • miturian@mastodon.socialM miturian@mastodon.social

    @Ruth_Mottram i would like to follow mat in here. Anyone know how?

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    #13

    @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

    Me too does anyone know his mastodon name?

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    • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

      Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

      albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @Ruth_Mottram

      I'm so glad someone put this into words:

      "Bluesky had a bunch of “stuff” but they’re trying to capture that 2008 Twitter lightning in a bottle which is a giant waste of time. We’re never going to go back to pretending that tweeting at politicians does anything and everyone there is desperately trying to build a “brand” as the funny one or whatever. I want news I don’t want your endless meta commentary on the news."

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      • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

        @Ruth_Mottram

        I'm so glad someone put this into words:

        "Bluesky had a bunch of “stuff” but they’re trying to capture that 2008 Twitter lightning in a bottle which is a giant waste of time. We’re never going to go back to pretending that tweeting at politicians does anything and everyone there is desperately trying to build a “brand” as the funny one or whatever. I want news I don’t want your endless meta commentary on the news."

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        #15

        @Ruth_Mottram

        The description of Threads got a good chuckle:

        "Threads was worthless because it’s the most boring social media website ever imagined. It’s a social media network designed by brands for brands, like if someone made a cable channel that was just advertisements and meta commentary about the advertisements you just saw. Billions of dollars at their disposal and Meta made a hot new social media network with the appeal of junk mail."

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        • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

          @Ruth_Mottram

          The description of Threads got a good chuckle:

          "Threads was worthless because it’s the most boring social media website ever imagined. It’s a social media network designed by brands for brands, like if someone made a cable channel that was just advertisements and meta commentary about the advertisements you just saw. Billions of dollars at their disposal and Meta made a hot new social media network with the appeal of junk mail."

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          #16

          @Ruth_Mottram

          The #fediverse, and hence Mastodon, as the real deal:

          "Actual human beings were able to find each other and ask direct questions without this giant mountain of bullshit engagement piled on top of it."

          I'm all for it.

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          • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

            @Ruth_Mottram

            The #fediverse, and hence Mastodon, as the real deal:

            "Actual human beings were able to find each other and ask direct questions without this giant mountain of bullshit engagement piled on top of it."

            I'm all for it.

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            #17

            @Ruth_Mottram

            On the #fediverse :

            "I never expected to find my news from strangers on a federated social network that half the internet has never heard of. I never expected a lot of things. But there's something quietly beautiful about a place where people just... share what they know. No brand deals, no engagement metrics, no algorithm nudging you toward rage. Just someone who spent twenty years studying Arctic policy posting a thread at 2 AM because they think you should understand what's happening. It's the internet I was promised in 1996. It only took thirty years and the complete collapse of American journalism to get here."

            I did, because I was part of that early internet. So glad it's back, and made by us, again, and not corporations.

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            • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

              Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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              #18

              @Ruth_Mottram
              'I prefer my narcissism farm to table' 😆

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              • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                #19

                @Ruth_Mottram source looks like: https://c.im/@matdevdug/116183052079063047

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                • primozr@social.vivaldi.netP primozr@social.vivaldi.net

                  @drgroftehauge @Ruth_Mottram

                  > To thrive in capitalism one must be amoral.

                  That! Sums up exactly the mess we're in.

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                  #20

                  @PrimozR @Ruth_Mottram Mat is also right about search. I can't find them on Mastodon.

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                  • drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD drgroftehauge@sigmoid.social

                    @PrimozR @Ruth_Mottram Mat is also right about search. I can't find them on Mastodon.

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                    #21

                    @drgroftehauge @PrimozR yes same!

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                      #22

                      @overby.me It is only just now that we are getting black sky and euro sky has followed. No one was successful in creating a new instance before that. And black sky got a bunch of help from blue sky because there was too much not documented about how it worked 🤷

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                      • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                        @drgroftehauge @PrimozR yes same!

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                        #23

                        @Ruth_Mottram @PrimozR It's @matdevdug

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                        • christo_459@mastodon.me.ukC christo_459@mastodon.me.uk

                          @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

                          Me too does anyone know his mastodon name?

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                          #24

                          @Christo_459

                          it's @matdevdug

                          @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

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                          • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                            Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                            #25

                            @Ruth_Mottram

                            Thank you for sharing this article. It was a pleasure to read.

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                            • guido@framapiaf.orgG guido@framapiaf.org

                              @Christo_459

                              it's @matdevdug

                              @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

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                              #26

                              @guido @Christo_459 @matdevdug @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

                              And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you search for users on mastodon. 😂

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                              • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                                Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                                #27

                                @Ruth_Mottram its really weird that DR (Danmarks Radio) still aren't in the Fediverse.

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                                • 7heo@ieji.de7 7heo@ieji.de

                                  @guido @Christo_459 @matdevdug @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

                                  And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you search for users on mastodon. 😂

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                                  #28

                                  @7heo Human algorithm 😁

                                  @guido @Christo_459 @matdevdug @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

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                                  • guido@framapiaf.orgG guido@framapiaf.org

                                    @Christo_459

                                    it's @matdevdug

                                    @miturian @Ruth_Mottram

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                                    #29

                                    @guido @matdevdug @miturian @Ruth_Mottram
                                    Thank you

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                                    • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                                      @Ruth_Mottram its really weird that DR (Danmarks Radio) still aren't in the Fediverse.

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                                      #30

                                      @leanderlindahl @Ruth_Mottram how do we make it happen?

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                                      • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                                        Boy I was wrong about the Fediverse https://matduggan.com/boy-i-was-wrong-about-the-fediverse/

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                                        #31

                                        @Ruth_Mottram

                                        "no algorithm nudging you toward rage"

                                        Umm, not so sure about that part.

                                        The fediverse is full of "rage", some of it reflecting what is happening in the world but a lot of it performative, I suspect simply nudged on by the *implicit* algorithm of posting, boosting, see and be seen etc. To the point that mastodon had to introduce the "think before you comment" UI.

                                        But it is indeed from this base that we need to think forward towards more meaningful social media.

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                                        • elena@aseachange.comE elena@aseachange.com

                                          @leanderlindahl @Ruth_Mottram how do we make it happen?

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                                          #32

                                          @elena @Ruth_Mottram I have no idea. Maybe @jeppe or @SuneAuken has an idea? Or at least an idea of who else from Denmark could be tagged. Surely someone must know people at DR.

                                          https://mastodon.social/@leanderlindahl/115761850464305711

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