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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

    We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

    Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

    And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

    richlv@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    richlv@mastodon.social
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    #195

    @EUCommission After chatcontrol, this might be the second worst recent decision, or at least second least liked one 🙂

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    • ayo@m.webtoo.lsA ayo@m.webtoo.ls

      @Gormfull @Wesemann @Gargron @EUCommission I can imagine the brainstorming

      “Folks this will be a huge W for Europe”

      wesemann@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #196

      @ayo @Gormfull @Gargron @EUCommission wait for it: the W is written as VV (Values & Verified)

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

        We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

        Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

        And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

        bubi352@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
        bubi352@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
        bubi352@mstdn.social
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        #197

        @EUCommission no. What a joke. You should be ashamed.

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        • rickf@indieweb.socialR rickf@indieweb.social

          @Gargron @EUCommission

          There's no money in Mastodon, unlike something a VC/techbro wants to sell them...

          koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          koen_hufkens@mastodon.social
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          #198

          @rickf @Gargron @EUCommission 👆 this exactly. They are big on public private partnerships and just don't know how to deal with grassroots or open structures IMO. The profit motive, how ill conceived, often prevails. Even if jobs/economic benefits never materialize and it is technically a hand-out to a private corporation it is an easier sell than "just" supporting a ground up solution. Bean-counters be bean-counters.

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          • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

            @rickf @Gargron @EUCommission 👆 this exactly. They are big on public private partnerships and just don't know how to deal with grassroots or open structures IMO. The profit motive, how ill conceived, often prevails. Even if jobs/economic benefits never materialize and it is technically a hand-out to a private corporation it is an easier sell than "just" supporting a ground up solution. Bean-counters be bean-counters.

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            koen_hufkens@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #199

            @rickf @Gargron @EUCommission Don't get me wrong, often these structures do get things right (regulation wise) but there is absolutely no structure for anything that is too far from the status quo (i.e. corporate run stuff).

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            • photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #200

              @geoffl @Gargron @EUCommission
              The EEC was.

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                driusan@doomscroller.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                driusan@doomscroller.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #201
                @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Pass
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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                  We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                  Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                  And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                  donamasta@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                  donamasta@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                  donamasta@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #202

                  @EUCommission please explain why you joined a non-opensource platform after stating clearly that you will promote open source in your recent tech sovereignty package.

                  Are you aware that the source code vanished from Github? Are you not in control of what you get to see in the platform that you are promoting?

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                  • anthropy@mastodon.derg.nzA anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz

                    @EUCommission I'm glad you're working on getting reach, please don't abandon this place ❤ I promise the w3 standards won't let you down, even if some of the people here can sometimes be a bit uh, demanding at times haha, I promise they mean well!

                    vickforcella@mastodon.derg.nzV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    vickforcella@mastodon.derg.nz
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #203

                    @anthropy @EUCommission We do? Oh.

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                      We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                      Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                      And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                      hungeninfo@mastodon.deH This user is from outside of this forum
                      hungeninfo@mastodon.deH This user is from outside of this forum
                      hungeninfo@mastodon.de
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #204

                      @EUCommission
                      What the fok are you doing! 😡

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                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                        @EUCommission It's kind of crazy that Mastodon never got this kind of promotion and endorsement, unlike this 4 month old platform that came out of nowhere.

                        trebach@functional.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #205

                        @Gargron I guess you're being polite. I'd call it "really fucking suspicious"
                        @EUCommission

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                          giammi@social.anoxinon.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          giammi@social.anoxinon.de
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                          #206

                          @EUCommission thanks, but no way I follow you there
                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

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                          • hmiron@fosstodon.orgH hmiron@fosstodon.org

                            @EUCommission we don’t need no W social network. Not when it’s based on the wrong pseudo-open standards and backed by VC money.

                            Mastodon and ActivityPub is what you should be endorsing as the true decentralised social network.

                            donamasta@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            donamasta@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #207

                            @hmiron @EUCommission

                            There is no control in decentralization. But they did claim that they wanted to support and prioritize open source. Yet Wsocial vanished from Github recently!

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

                              ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

                              mrjive@mastodon.unoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mrjive@mastodon.uno
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #208

                              @EUCommission
                              Total nonsense. Moving to a closed-source for-profit platform is definitely another dumb and weak decision. Thanks, I'll stay here on the #fediverse

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                oceane@gotosocial.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                oceane@gotosocial.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #209

                                @EUCommission Hey cutie, what the fuck is that? I’m genuinely asking. I went offline for 12 hours and suddenly the European union advertises its presence on a social media platform I wasn’t aware of when I woke up this morning. What are its main features? Why are you investing resources into a brokered social media protocol whose moderation is effectively controlled by entities being large enough to run the nodes its servers rely on (creating a network effect similar to that of the GAFAMs, independently of who runs the actual servers)?

                                Again I’m not the kind of people to unleash on community managers. I don’t know at which level this decision was made and I don’t care. But why are you advertising for a platform that will effectively revive the ATproto and cap the ActivityPub growth? Human lives are at stake.

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                                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                  We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                  Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                  And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                  ohmu@social.seattle.wa.usO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  ohmu@social.seattle.wa.us
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #210

                                  @EUCommission
                                  What a bizarre choice.

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                                  • trebach@functional.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    trebach@functional.cafe
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                                    #211

                                    @samueljohnson Don't forget malice!@EUCommission

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                      We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                      Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                      And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                      grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      grob@mstdn.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #212

                                      @EUCommission the EU commission simply _must_ be the most "mixed signals" political entity I know

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                        We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                        Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                        And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                        neongod@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        neongod@mstdn.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #213

                                        @EUCommission

                                        "Yes we have a business model, it's not a philanthropy, we are not a B corp, we actually want to make money. - Anna Zeiter, CEO of #wsocial

                                        They're talking about 50 billion Euros per year. You want to help them make some money, right? So it "stays in Europe".

                                        Their proposal also aligns nicely with ending anonymity online. They'd require government ID verification for account creation.

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

                                          ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

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                                          carcasor@xarxa.cloud
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                                          #214

                                          @EUCommission You can’t be serious

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