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  3. i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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    #84

    @eniko

    the concept, way back, was The Subroutine, a compact self-contained and hopefully tested thing with inputs and outputs, as had happened in Electronics shortly before where an ocean of incompatible constructs became IC's with standard values, infinitely combine-able. This was the notion in Unix, a tinker-toy toolbox, programmable LEGO, but the tech for all this pipeworks was too much for the early home computers, so you got MSDOS instead, and MS lock-ins on "compatible components" (for your security of course)

    Linux then brought the clunky unix mindset to the PC, but quickly fell into copying The Everything App like the Big Boys, trademark logos, t-shirts, booth-babes, their difference was at least they intended to be 'interoperable' between these apps, like the MS or IOS consoles, but it was still between monolithic EverythingBut Apps.

    How nice it would be to have one (favourite) editor you know backwards and forwards and EVERY textbox you see uses it, not WordStar ☺️

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    • teledyn@mstdn.caT teledyn@mstdn.ca

      @eniko

      the concept, way back, was The Subroutine, a compact self-contained and hopefully tested thing with inputs and outputs, as had happened in Electronics shortly before where an ocean of incompatible constructs became IC's with standard values, infinitely combine-able. This was the notion in Unix, a tinker-toy toolbox, programmable LEGO, but the tech for all this pipeworks was too much for the early home computers, so you got MSDOS instead, and MS lock-ins on "compatible components" (for your security of course)

      Linux then brought the clunky unix mindset to the PC, but quickly fell into copying The Everything App like the Big Boys, trademark logos, t-shirts, booth-babes, their difference was at least they intended to be 'interoperable' between these apps, like the MS or IOS consoles, but it was still between monolithic EverythingBut Apps.

      How nice it would be to have one (favourite) editor you know backwards and forwards and EVERY textbox you see uses it, not WordStar ☺️

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      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #85

      @eniko

      I should add that my android phone can do this, but only with a tiny list of not-devious options that are all worse than WordStar.

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      • basiliskxviii@kind.socialB basiliskxviii@kind.social

        @eniko Quite honestly, I'd generally be happy with a piece of software that gets bugfixes and nothing else. The number of time some arbitrary update changes the UI for no reason and throws my whole workflow off...

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        #86

        @BasiliskXVIII @eniko It seems like Remember The Milk might be in this state.

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        • maia@mastodon.artM maia@mastodon.art

          @eniko @pouncy_panda i instantly knew the perfect image for this and knew it had to be done (i used deathgenerator.com)

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          #87

          @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda @jalefkowit@vmst.io cc @foone thought you might appreciate this usage

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          • teledyn@mstdn.caT teledyn@mstdn.ca

            @eniko

            I should add that my android phone can do this, but only with a tiny list of not-devious options that are all worse than WordStar.

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            #88

            @eniko

            and I would be remiss not to add that #Emacs has lasted over four decades on this sum-of-small-parts philosophy although, here again, app writers don't always implement this way. Like software devs, they see all the includes and packages pulled in, yet only rarely think gee what if MY work was pull-in-able?

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            • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

              @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda
              Hey, so, when they do tattoos of pixel art, do they use big square needles, or do i just ask the lady to make the squares manually?

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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #89

              @EndlessMason @maia @pouncy_panda I don't know but maybe @GoblinHellion does

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              • maia@mastodon.artM maia@mastodon.art

                @eniko @pouncy_panda i instantly knew the perfect image for this and knew it had to be done (i used deathgenerator.com)

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                wandrecanada@mastodon.social
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #90

                @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda That's the second smallest application I've ever seen!

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @EndlessMason @maia @pouncy_panda I don't know but maybe @GoblinHellion does

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                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #91

                  @eniko @EndlessMason @maia @pouncy_panda hahahaha this is the best question ever. Definitely ask the lady to draw them manually. If they say they have a square pixel needle they are lying to you and you should probably run away?

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                    wpeckham@social.linux.pizza
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #92

                    @eniko We were once taught in computer science to attempt to refine our code to tight, elegant, complete solutions. Very small chunks of software that were complete and conceptually clear. Early on, that was required because the memory and storage resources were strictly limited. When did we decide that just because the limits were off, our coding should be complex, nasty, unreadable, and should suck?

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                    • daviddoes@mastodon.socialD daviddoes@mastodon.social

                      @datarama @eniko Regarding "out of things where they have no sane reason to be"... I would honestly love more well-made dumb appliances.

                      There is zero reason to ever discover my toaster is part of a botnet.

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                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #93

                      @daviddoes @datarama @eniko I am of the generation that built our own crystal radios using a bit of mineral rock or anthracite coal. But I should not have to build my own fucking toaster to make toast without an app!

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                      • wpeckham@social.linux.pizzaW wpeckham@social.linux.pizza

                        @eniko We were once taught in computer science to attempt to refine our code to tight, elegant, complete solutions. Very small chunks of software that were complete and conceptually clear. Early on, that was required because the memory and storage resources were strictly limited. When did we decide that just because the limits were off, our coding should be complex, nasty, unreadable, and should suck?

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                        #94
                        @wpeckham @eniko When we decided that meeting arbitrary deadlines was more important than writing good code.
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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @alice oh I'm so glad to hear you like them 😄

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                          #95

                          @eniko I started over today because I forgot everything. It’s very core and voice acting is great (and the dialogue mechanics perfect, which is rare.)
                          @alice

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                          • eldersea@expressional.socialE eldersea@expressional.social

                            @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda
                            Ooh this inspired me to meme it in this format:

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                            #96

                            @eldersea

                            This one is the one I like the most so far.
                            Well Done.

                            @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @pouncy_panda eh, that one's a bit different from mine so i wouldn't jump to conclusions

                              though even if someone copied it verbatim, in this case i'd probably just be happy to see this thought spreading further

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                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #97

                              @eniko @pouncy_panda

                              Similar content, and adjacent in theme ( ? if that's the right term ) certainly not verbatim.

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                              • banjofox@masto.hackers.townB banjofox@masto.hackers.town

                                @eldersea

                                This one is the one I like the most so far.
                                Well Done.

                                @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda

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                                #98

                                @banjofox @eldersea @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda
                                Wasn't that guy famously wrong?

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                                • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

                                  @banjofox @eldersea @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda
                                  Wasn't that guy famously wrong?

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                                  #99

                                  @EndlessMason

                                  The one in the painting?
                                  I have no idea.

                                  Doesn't really have any affect on how much I like that meme format.

                                  @eldersea @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda

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                                  • banjofox@masto.hackers.townB banjofox@masto.hackers.town

                                    @EndlessMason

                                    The one in the painting?
                                    I have no idea.

                                    Doesn't really have any affect on how much I like that meme format.

                                    @eldersea @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda

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                                    #100

                                    @banjofox @eldersea @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda

                                    Possibly not "famously wrong", just ...

                                    > Freedom of Speech depicts a scene of a 1942 Arlington town meeting in which Jim Edgerton, the lone dissenter to the town selectmen's announced plans to build a new school, as the old one had burned down,[9] was accorded the floor as a matter of protocol.[10] Edgerton supported the rebuilding process but was concerned about the tax burden of the proposal, as his family farm had been ravaged by disease.[11] A memory of this scene struck Rockwell as an excellent fit for illustrating "freedom of speech", and inspired him to use his Vermont neighbors as models for the entire Four Freedoms series.[12][13]

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                                    • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

                                      @banjofox @eldersea @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda

                                      Possibly not "famously wrong", just ...

                                      > Freedom of Speech depicts a scene of a 1942 Arlington town meeting in which Jim Edgerton, the lone dissenter to the town selectmen's announced plans to build a new school, as the old one had burned down,[9] was accorded the floor as a matter of protocol.[10] Edgerton supported the rebuilding process but was concerned about the tax burden of the proposal, as his family farm had been ravaged by disease.[11] A memory of this scene struck Rockwell as an excellent fit for illustrating "freedom of speech", and inspired him to use his Vermont neighbors as models for the entire Four Freedoms series.[12][13]

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                                      #101

                                      @EndlessMason

                                      I SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 👍

                                      @eldersea @maia @eniko @pouncy_panda

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @pouncy_panda eh, that one's a bit different from mine so i wouldn't jump to conclusions

                                        though even if someone copied it verbatim, in this case i'd probably just be happy to see this thought spreading further

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                                        #102

                                        @eniko @pouncy_panda

                                        I think the follow-up makes it clear: https://donotsta.re/objects/762c34a4-2263-417f-8c1b-4fbb4695fcb0

                                        It's a restatement.

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          posts on mastodon can't blow up they said

                                          mastodon has low engagement they said

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                                          #103

                                          @eniko I don't know how you do it - if I make a post that gets 10 likes all the notifications bug the crap out of me

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