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  • nihkeys@mastodontti.fiN nihkeys@mastodontti.fi

    @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog The purpose of a system is what it does. IMO these are not accidents.

    draeath@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #29

    @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

      dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #30

      @GossiTheDog
      The real question is why does a bot have commit privileges on a "major web framework"?

      i mean the answer is probably because google owns the repo probably... but why?

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      • s_bergmann@chaos.socialS s_bergmann@chaos.social

        @GossiTheDog It is interesting that these changes are attributed to a "user named Claude" and not to the "human using the agent named Claude". This is how diffusion of responsibility works, I guess.

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        #31

        @s_bergmann @GossiTheDog I like how AIDER uses co-authors, so you can't escape from blame. All these tools should be doing similar!

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        • nihkeys@mastodontti.fiN nihkeys@mastodontti.fi

          @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog The purpose of a system is what it does. IMO these are not accidents.

          violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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          #32

          @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog

          The damage is the point.

          It's a weapon.

          Not sure I'd call it a "targeted" attack, when the goal is to flood absolutely EVERYTHING with shit everywhere.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

            I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

            So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

            https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

            As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

            ftp_alun@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #33

            @GossiTheDog fault injection into production code at scale. Nice.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

              I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

              So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

              https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

              As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

              spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #34

              @GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

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              • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                @GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 😎

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                #35

                @etchedpixels Bug bounties? You know nothing about business…
                You set up a giant scam tool, let venture capital pay for its development, then use it to hack the world and sell all of it:

                • license use of the tool,
                • hacking applications,
                • vulnerability scanning,
                • protection racket from affected companies.

                That' how real capitalists do business.
                The tool is called Claude.
                @GossiTheDog

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                • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                  @GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 😎

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                  #36

                  @etchedpixels @GossiTheDog

                  Gahhh. Takes a little effort to imagine LESS rewarding work.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                    I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                    So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                    https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                    As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                    keith_lawson@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #37

                    @GossiTheDog This was literally the first major security mistake I made in my early days as a Perl developer and I don't imagine it's that uncommon. Claude has probably been trained with a truckload of code with these vulnerabilities.

                    That's okay because we run everything in single-purpose Docker containers now though, right? /s

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                    • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                      @GossiTheDog

                      bradley@techhub.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #38

                      @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                        spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #39

                        @GossiTheDog I see it, could probably start a threat intelligence business off the claude feed 🙂‍↕️

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                          carpetbomberz@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #40

                          @GossiTheDog

                          That Claude is a "clod", and boy does Claude get around I tell ya'. 🏃

                          Claude is everywhere you want an exploit to be. 🚨

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                          • draeath@infosec.exchangeD draeath@infosec.exchange

                            @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

                            It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

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                            #41

                            @draeath

                            These MFers yeet DIRFT (Do it right the first time) and TQM principles to play hooky on the plinko and demand you call them a genius.

                            @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                              I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                              So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                              https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                              As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                              abucci@buc.ciA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #42
                              @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social An instance of eating the seed corn, I'd say ( https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1705679109.757852 ).
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                              • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                @da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

                                Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

                                That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

                                @GossiTheDog

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                                #43

                                @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog Hey, as somebody writing a CTF, it's handy to get randomly introduced vulnerabilities!

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                                • hughsie@mastodon.socialH hughsie@mastodon.social

                                  @GossiTheDog I guess the AI security scanners will clean this up with their automated scan and CVE requests.</joke>

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                                  #44

                                  @hughsie @GossiTheDog It’s the circle of life. Extra points if the fix has new vulnerabilities in it!

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                                  • draeath@infosec.exchangeD draeath@infosec.exchange

                                    @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

                                    confuseacat@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #45

                                    @draeath @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog not if you want to understand the system.
                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does

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                                    • spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange

                                      @GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

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                                      #46

                                      @spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social If github lists claude (or other LLMs) as one of the top contributors I consider that a red flag

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                        wgwz@hachyderm.ioW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #47

                                        @GossiTheDog which framework?

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

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                                          #48

                                          @GossiTheDog I feel sorry for all the persons named Claude https://github.com/search?q=claude&type=commits

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