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  • s_bergmann@chaos.socialS s_bergmann@chaos.social

    @GossiTheDog It is interesting that these changes are attributed to a "user named Claude" and not to the "human using the agent named Claude". This is how diffusion of responsibility works, I guess.

    draeath@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @s_bergmann @GossiTheDog I like how AIDER uses co-authors, so you can't escape from blame. All these tools should be doing similar!

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    • nihkeys@mastodontti.fiN nihkeys@mastodontti.fi

      @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog The purpose of a system is what it does. IMO these are not accidents.

      violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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      #32

      @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog

      The damage is the point.

      It's a weapon.

      Not sure I'd call it a "targeted" attack, when the goal is to flood absolutely EVERYTHING with shit everywhere.

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

        ftp_alun@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
        ftp_alun@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @GossiTheDog fault injection into production code at scale. Nice.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

          spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
          spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #34

          @GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

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          • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

            @GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 😎

            ptesarik@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #35

            @etchedpixels Bug bounties? You know nothing about business…
            You set up a giant scam tool, let venture capital pay for its development, then use it to hack the world and sell all of it:

            • license use of the tool,
            • hacking applications,
            • vulnerability scanning,
            • protection racket from affected companies.

            That' how real capitalists do business.
            The tool is called Claude.
            @GossiTheDog

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            • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

              @GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 😎

              tarheel@mstdn.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36

              @etchedpixels @GossiTheDog

              Gahhh. Takes a little effort to imagine LESS rewarding work.

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                keith_lawson@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                keith_lawson@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                keith_lawson@mastodon.social
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                #37

                @GossiTheDog This was literally the first major security mistake I made in my early days as a Perl developer and I don't imagine it's that uncommon. Claude has probably been trained with a truckload of code with these vulnerabilities.

                That's okay because we run everything in single-purpose Docker containers now though, right? /s

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                • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                  @GossiTheDog

                  bradley@techhub.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #38

                  @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                    I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                    So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                    https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                    As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                    spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                    spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                    spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange
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                    #39

                    @GossiTheDog I see it, could probably start a threat intelligence business off the claude feed 🙂‍↕️

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                      carpetbomberz@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
                      carpetbomberz@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
                      carpetbomberz@mastodon.online
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                      #40

                      @GossiTheDog

                      That Claude is a "clod", and boy does Claude get around I tell ya'. 🏃

                      Claude is everywhere you want an exploit to be. 🚨

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                      • draeath@infosec.exchangeD draeath@infosec.exchange

                        @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

                        It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

                        badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #41

                        @draeath

                        These MFers yeet DIRFT (Do it right the first time) and TQM principles to play hooky on the plinko and demand you call them a genius.

                        @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                          abucci@buc.ciA This user is from outside of this forum
                          abucci@buc.ciA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #42
                          @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social An instance of eating the seed corn, I'd say ( https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1705679109.757852 ).
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                          • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                            @da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

                            Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

                            That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

                            @GossiTheDog

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                            #43

                            @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog Hey, as somebody writing a CTF, it's handy to get randomly introduced vulnerabilities!

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                            • hughsie@mastodon.socialH hughsie@mastodon.social

                              @GossiTheDog I guess the AI security scanners will clean this up with their automated scan and CVE requests.</joke>

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                              #44

                              @hughsie @GossiTheDog It’s the circle of life. Extra points if the fix has new vulnerabilities in it!

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                              • draeath@infosec.exchangeD draeath@infosec.exchange

                                @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

                                confuseacat@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #45

                                @draeath @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog not if you want to understand the system.
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does

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                                • spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange

                                  @GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

                                  trivernis@social.funkyfish.coolT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #46

                                  @spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social If github lists claude (or other LLMs) as one of the top contributors I consider that a red flag

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                    I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                    So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                    https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                    As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                    wgwz@hachyderm.ioW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #47

                                    @GossiTheDog which framework?

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                      pinkforest@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #48

                                      @GossiTheDog I feel sorry for all the persons named Claude https://github.com/search?q=claude&type=commits

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                        vikonava@bijaiv.comV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        vikonava@bijaiv.com
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                                        #49

                                        @GossiTheDog this happens when people don’t care nor use AI responsibly… we have to do proper reviews EVERY SINGLE TIME

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                          chengdulittlea@mastodon.artC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          chengdulittlea@mastodon.artC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          chengdulittlea@mastodon.art
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                                          #50

                                          @GossiTheDog but... Do these repositories all not have any review processes for their PRs?

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