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  3. I really want to stress that copyright infringement is a civil infraction unless you pass the specific tests set out in US law that make it a criminal infraction (>$1000 retail value worth of infringement).

I really want to stress that copyright infringement is a civil infraction unless you pass the specific tests set out in US law that make it a criminal infraction (>$1000 retail value worth of infringement).

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  • glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@AlSweigart/116602626276300598

    I really want to stress that copyright infringement is a civil infraction unless you pass the specific tests set out in US law that make it a criminal infraction (>$1000 retail value worth of infringement). I am not a lawyer but it seems clear to me that every frontier model provider should have its models seized (as they are derivative works) and all their executives should spend a year in jail https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/506

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      RE: https://mastodon.social/@AlSweigart/116602626276300598

      I really want to stress that copyright infringement is a civil infraction unless you pass the specific tests set out in US law that make it a criminal infraction (>$1000 retail value worth of infringement). I am not a lawyer but it seems clear to me that every frontier model provider should have its models seized (as they are derivative works) and all their executives should spend a year in jail https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/506

      glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      This is a bad law and I oppose its presence on our books. I do not think that copyright infringement should be a criminal offense. But the only thing that I dislike about copyright law more than its bad design is its selective enforcement. We cannot have "heads I win, tails you lose" enforcement of the law for oligarchs.

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      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

        This is a bad law and I oppose its presence on our books. I do not think that copyright infringement should be a criminal offense. But the only thing that I dislike about copyright law more than its bad design is its selective enforcement. We cannot have "heads I win, tails you lose" enforcement of the law for oligarchs.

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        #3

        If Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, and his business partner Dario Amodei want to change this law, they are in a significantly more efficacious social position to do so than I am. I hope they will devote their considerable personal resources to its fair reform. They should go do that. Until then, though, regrettably, they must all go to federal prison.

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          If Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, and his business partner Dario Amodei want to change this law, they are in a significantly more efficacious social position to do so than I am. I hope they will devote their considerable personal resources to its fair reform. They should go do that. Until then, though, regrettably, they must all go to federal prison.

          ehproque@neopaquita.esE This user is from outside of this forum
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          @glyph but why bother? They prefer selective enforcement, in case someone makes a "universal pirated library" people likes more than their slop, they can still bribe someone to have them thrown in jail

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          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@AlSweigart/116602626276300598

            I really want to stress that copyright infringement is a civil infraction unless you pass the specific tests set out in US law that make it a criminal infraction (>$1000 retail value worth of infringement). I am not a lawyer but it seems clear to me that every frontier model provider should have its models seized (as they are derivative works) and all their executives should spend a year in jail https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/506

            robincafolla@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @glyph the laws only apply to people who can't afford to ignore them.

            It has always been thus.

            No system which gives power and wealth to some few; whether those are nobles, oligarchs, elected representatives or priests; can escape that truth. Power is always the problem.

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              If Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, and his business partner Dario Amodei want to change this law, they are in a significantly more efficacious social position to do so than I am. I hope they will devote their considerable personal resources to its fair reform. They should go do that. Until then, though, regrettably, they must all go to federal prison.

              tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @glyph this is interesting to read in the context of https://torrentfreak.com/annas-archive-hit-with-19-5m-default-judgment-and-global-domain-takedown-order/ . I'd think to ask about what the difference(s) might be, but I'm trying to cut back on asking rhetorical questions. 🙂

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              • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                If Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, and his business partner Dario Amodei want to change this law, they are in a significantly more efficacious social position to do so than I am. I hope they will devote their considerable personal resources to its fair reform. They should go do that. Until then, though, regrettably, they must all go to federal prison.

                pixelscience@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @glyph If they believe in open access to data then we should have their source code, model weights, training data, financials, account numbers, social security numbers, dna sequences, and so on…

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                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                  This is a bad law and I oppose its presence on our books. I do not think that copyright infringement should be a criminal offense. But the only thing that I dislike about copyright law more than its bad design is its selective enforcement. We cannot have "heads I win, tails you lose" enforcement of the law for oligarchs.

                  datarama@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @glyph Judicially, that is what oligarchy *is*.

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