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  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV This user is from outside of this forum
    vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV This user is from outside of this forum
    vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #1

    Big Tech is at it again.

    Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

    1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
    2) paying a fee
    3) uploading a government ID

    Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

    In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

    At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

    (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

    https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

    missgayle@urbanists.socialM clmj@mastodon.socialC seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS vlad_3301@mastodon.socialV jmessager@framapiaf.orgJ 17 Replies Last reply
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    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

      Big Tech is at it again.

      Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

      1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
      2) paying a fee
      3) uploading a government ID

      Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

      In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

      At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

      (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

      https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

      missgayle@urbanists.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      missgayle@urbanists.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @Vivaldi

      Sounds like a lawsuit. A company can't charge a fee to people who don't want to do business with it. That is de facto racketeering, not to mention monopoly powers.

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      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

        Big Tech is at it again.

        Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

        1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
        2) paying a fee
        3) uploading a government ID

        Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

        In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

        At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

        (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

        https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

        clmj@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        clmj@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @Vivaldi this is bananas to me. Android's openness is its competitive advantage. If I'm going to be locked into a Google ecosystem, I may as well get an iPhone. This won't affect me as much, I'm either on Lineage or graphene but that's also just a locked bootloader away from being taken away. Thanks for fighting the good fight.

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        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

          Big Tech is at it again.

          Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

          1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
          2) paying a fee
          3) uploading a government ID

          Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

          In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

          At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

          (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

          https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

          seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
          seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
          seconduniverse@autistics.life
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @Vivaldi Doesn't that fall foul of a ton of EU legislation that forced mobile OS vendors to open up to third party app markets?

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          • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

            Big Tech is at it again.

            Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

            1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
            2) paying a fee
            3) uploading a government ID

            Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

            In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

            At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

            (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

            https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

            vlad_3301@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
            vlad_3301@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
            vlad_3301@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @Vivaldi Подержите тогда независимых маркетов, например F-Android.Хорошо, когда хотите пользоваться приложением, но не зависеть, откуда вы его установили. Ответственность берет и пользователь, а Гугл берет очень много.
            Гугл становится уж совсем как Апл Маркет.
            Then try independent markets, such as F-Android.
            It's good when you want to use the app, but don't depend on where you installed it from. The user also takes responsibility, and Google takes a lot.Google is becoming just like Apple Market

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            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

              Big Tech is at it again.

              Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

              1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
              2) paying a fee
              3) uploading a government ID

              Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

              In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

              At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

              (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

              https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

              jmessager@framapiaf.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              jmessager@framapiaf.org
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @Vivaldi

              "Don't be evil"… bullshit…

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              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                Big Tech is at it again.

                Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                2) paying a fee
                3) uploading a government ID

                Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

                htpcnz@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @Vivaldi funny how this get far less attention to here than whatever Microslop does, almost like most here moan about stuff cus they are forced use M$ stuff at work, but outside that, all their private devices are all from the overpriced cult of the choosen fruit. Where as the rest of us peasant masses use cheap windows devices just to run the Chrome browser or Chrome OS devices and cheap google Android devices for everything else. This isn't 2001 anymore.

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                • seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS seconduniverse@autistics.life

                  @Vivaldi Doesn't that fall foul of a ton of EU legislation that forced mobile OS vendors to open up to third party app markets?

                  seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @Vivaldi Maybe they are just trying a new angle because they think Trump will back them up.

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                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                    Big Tech is at it again.

                    Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                    1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                    2) paying a fee
                    3) uploading a government ID

                    Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                    In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                    At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                    (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

                    B This user is from outside of this forum
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                    bonsai861@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @Vivaldi Just in case they do, please can you prepare a Ubuntu Touch or SailfishOS app? Let me know which one so I can switch to that OS next.

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                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                      Big Tech is at it again.

                      Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                      1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                      2) paying a fee
                      3) uploading a government ID

                      Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                      In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                      At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                      (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                      https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

                      zoidbergforpresident@kolektiva.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      zoidbergforpresident@kolektiva.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @Vivaldi I did not understood it that way, they'd ask a few to post the app OUTSIDE of their store? WTF...

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                      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                        Big Tech is at it again.

                        Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                        1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                        2) paying a fee
                        3) uploading a government ID

                        Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                        In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                        At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                        (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

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                        dotmavriq@social.dotmavriq.life
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #11
                        @Vivaldi
                        All it means is that I'm buying a Motorola next.
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                        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                          Big Tech is at it again.

                          Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                          1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                          2) paying a fee
                          3) uploading a government ID

                          Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                          In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                          At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                          (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                          https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

                          gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
                          gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
                          gimulnautti@mastodon.green
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @Vivaldi So they’re basically saying they ”own” Android.

                          But the question is, as with any other rules, how are they going to enforce this?

                          Do you get banned from the Play store? What else CAN they do?

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                          • B bonsai861@mastodon.social

                            @Vivaldi Just in case they do, please can you prepare a Ubuntu Touch or SailfishOS app? Let me know which one so I can switch to that OS next.

                            setok@attractive.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            setok@attractive.space
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @bonsai861 @Vivaldi I actually run the Vivaldi browser on Sailfish, but the Android version. In addition to the native Jolla browser.

                            Though it would be especially nice if Vivaldi did a native Sailfish app. Might be then tempted to switch all my Sailfish browsing to that.

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                            • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                              @Vivaldi So they’re basically saying they ”own” Android.

                              But the question is, as with any other rules, how are they going to enforce this?

                              Do you get banned from the Play store? What else CAN they do?

                              vextaur@blog.taursnd.hausV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              vextaur@blog.taursnd.haus
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14
                              @gimulnautti @Vivaldi Come September they're supposed to be pushing a 'security update' that will block any unapproved app from running on Android devices.
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                              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                Big Tech is at it again.

                                Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                                1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                                2) paying a fee
                                3) uploading a government ID

                                Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                                In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                                At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                                (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

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                                ulrich_the_elder@thecanadian.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @Vivaldi I definitely do not want apple products and now I don't want android products. Is there a linux phone?

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                                • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                  Big Tech is at it again.

                                  Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                                  1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                                  2) paying a fee
                                  3) uploading a government ID

                                  Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                                  In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                                  At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                                  (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

                                  leoschuldiner23@beige.partyL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  leoschuldiner23@beige.party
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @Vivaldi I met Vivaldi browser thanks to Mastodon and it's been a great experience. Everything works perfectly and it has options and ingenious alternative uses and visual displays. Totally recommended.

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                                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                    Big Tech is at it again.

                                    Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                                    1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                                    2) paying a fee
                                    3) uploading a government ID

                                    Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                                    In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                                    At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                                    (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

                                    luiscarlosgonzalez@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    luiscarlosgonzalez@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @alexchapman @Vivaldi Fuck america, fuck microtrump and goopublicns! that's all

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                                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                      Big Tech is at it again.

                                      Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                                      1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                                      2) paying a fee
                                      3) uploading a government ID

                                      Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                                      In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                                      At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                                      (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

                                      lisp_1@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #18

                                      @Vivaldi I guess it is back to the flip phone.

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                                      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                        Big Tech is at it again.

                                        Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                                        1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                                        2) paying a fee
                                        3) uploading a government ID

                                        Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                                        In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                                        At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                                        (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #19

                                        @Vivaldi I'm a bit confused by what the social media buttons next to the signatories mean. They try to post something. But the post isn't about the signatory I clicked the button on. But the Mastodon buttons all post to different Mastodon servers. What's going on?

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                                        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                          Big Tech is at it again.

                                          Some of you might have seen this already. Google has announced a new policy for Android app developers, which would require them to seek Google’s permission if they want to distribute their apps outside of the Google Play Store (on their own website or on alternative app stores). This would entail:

                                          1) agreeing to their terms and conditions
                                          2) paying a fee
                                          3) uploading a government ID

                                          Which is wrong on so many levels. Nobody should be forced to register with Google if they don’t want to use their services.

                                          In doing so they would be extending their gatekeeping (tentacles) into distribution channels where they’re just not a legitimate authority.

                                          At Vivaldi, we believe you have the right to run whatever software you want on a device you own. That’s why we’ve co-signed this open letter, together with other 53 organisations, requesting Google to back off on the proposed policy before it enters into force.

                                          (Plus, they have have a pretty cool logo 😄)

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/open-letter/

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @Vivaldi you know what's better than signing an open letter
                                          Changing your licence to opensource i.e GPLv2/3 and MIT

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