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    @karl Politico is Springer Press

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      @dibi58 @karl this is literally incompatible. Every LLM needs huge quantities of resources to run, and that won't magically change because we'd use an European one.

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      @orange_lux@eldritch.cafe @dibi58@this.mouse.rocks @karl@infosec.exchange Technically, given the kind of compute for energy ratios that human brains (and other dynamic nanosystems) manage to accomplish, it should be quite possible to accomplish with synthetic biology.

      We just need to get much better at it and forget ever accomplishing it on static compute (stop even trying, the efficiency is too bad).

      The efficiency of digital static compute is laughably bad at the best of times.

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        @orange_lux@eldritch.cafe @dibi58@this.mouse.rocks @karl@infosec.exchange Technically, given the kind of compute for energy ratios that human brains (and other dynamic nanosystems) manage to accomplish, it should be quite possible to accomplish with synthetic biology.

        We just need to get much better at it and forget ever accomplishing it on static compute (stop even trying, the efficiency is too bad).

        The efficiency of digital static compute is laughably bad at the best of times.

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        @lispi314 @orange_lux @karl @dibi58

        > synthetic biology.

        we don't really need this. There are so many bacteria and neural cells available, with billions of  years of evolution...

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        • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net

          @lispi314 @orange_lux @karl @dibi58

          > synthetic biology.

          we don't really need this. There are so many bacteria and neural cells available, with billions of  years of evolution...

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          Using Aktor: https://git.keinpfusch.net/loweel/Aktor-2
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          old blog: https://blog.keinpfusch.net
          new blog: https://keinpfusch.net

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          @ALewpqX9B5hLrwnPl2.uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net @orange_lux @karl @dibi58 That's a question of degrees at that point.

          Even if you use building blocks that already exist, isn't it synthetic?

          Similar to a hammer, all the components remain natural (since they clearly exist to start with), but intelligent intervention was involved in its making. That at least is the distinction I draw.

          There's no particular reason to recreate it entirely from scratch unless you very specifically want to make it deliberately incompatible with the rest of the biosphere.
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            @karl in that case. No data centers.

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              @karl They need to really think about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPQNPJ0CEPo

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                @karl we have #gaskathi katharina reiche

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                  @karl Shameless

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                    @karl@infosec.exchange So this is how the fight of humans vs machines will go.
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                      @karl@infosec.exchange The data center lobby is right. We must choose for the climate and we will have less AI. I like these lobbyist presenting us a scenario with zero downsides.

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                        @karl@infosec.exchange The data center lobby is right. We must choose for the climate and we will have less AI. I like these lobbyist presenting us a scenario with zero downsides.

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                        @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @karl@infosec.exchange Preserving our Earth and everyone and everything who lives and will live in it will always be more important than the delusional power fantasies of rebuilding a repulsive slave state off of surveillance technologies and the youth's ruined futures 🌏

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